Syslog is the proper way to do logging on a UNIX/Linux system. In a serious production environment, you tend to be automatically disqualified from consideration for doing anything different -- it's just too much of a headache to figure out all the quirks of non-standard applications. On the other hand, if ICECAST was only ever intended as a hobby, then it really doesn't matter. The advantage of centralization from a system management perspective is significant. Everything from the standard location of logs, to simplicity of log rotation, to the ease with which you can configure the logging level using standard syslog configuration -- these are all highly valued if you are trying to keep hundreds of applications alive in production setting. I know it's boring stuff to code, but don't underestimate its value to the user. On Sunday, Feb 2, 2003, at 09:46 America/Montreal, Pierre Amadio wrote:>>> - syslog logging >> >> Not sure if that's really all that worthwhile. What's the reasoning >> behind >> this one? > > Nothing particular, i was just thinking it's cool to have a centralised > way of dealing with logs when i was writing the list of potential todo > stuff. Not a big deal if it's not done.--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Hi there.> > - syslog logging > > Not sure if that's really all that worthwhile. What's the reasoning behind > this one?Nothing particular, i was just thinking it's cool to have a centralised way of dealing with logs when i was writing the list of potential todo stuff. Not a big deal if it's not done.> > - having a nice graphical or web interface around this. > > This is something I'd like, but my HTML design skills are somewhat lacking (it > always comes out looking ugly :-)I would preferabilly have a way to get information in raw xml and post order with GET or POST rather than a hard coded web interface so everybody could use those features and intergated it in any application they would be developping. So it looks like that's the way you are already choosing.> My plan doesn't really extend in any concrete way very far - but if we know > people are working on one feature, then we can stay away from that part of > the code until your bits are ready.I have forwarded your mail to our mailing list. As soon as we know exactly how the student project is doing we will post news here.> As for cvs - we're generally happy to give access to people who have shown an > ongoing interest in developing, and have submitted at least a few > high-quality patches. Again, however, if you want to have your own private > server, you'd have to provide it yourself - and we won't give cvs access to > people who have not proven their ability to contribute sufficiently good > code.This sounds wise.> I think docbook would probably be the best approach to take with this. > However, if there's a compelling reason to use something else, that's > generally fine.Ok. My personnal todo list now have on top of the heap: docbook rtfming :) I will keep in touch as soon as i have read the doc, and wrote something that start to be usefull. Have a nice day. Pierre Amadio --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 11:20:41AM -0500, Erich J. Ritzmann wrote:> > The advantage of centralization from a system management perspective is > significant. Everything from the standard location of logs, to > simplicity of log rotation, to the ease with which you can configure > the logging level using standard syslog configuration -- these are all > highly valued if you are trying to keep hundreds of applications alive > in production setting.more than that, the interesting thing is that you can log on a different machine, which is of great value in the case you've got more than one. bye, Jerome Alet --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.