On 12/9/2015 21:37, Freddie Cash wrote:>
>
> On Dec 9, 2015 7:24 PM, "Karl Denninger" <karl at
denninger.net
> <mailto:karl at denninger.net>> wrote:
> >
> > On 12/9/2015 17:29, Michael B. Eichorn wrote:
> > > I sorry, but I really don't get your point, PCBSD has shown a
great
> > > reason why zfs on root and on laptops/desktops is a good idea...
boot
> > > environments. They have pretty much figured out how to use
snapshots
> > > to go from A-B ping-pong installations to A-B-C-D-E....
installations.
> > > I am even aware of people using it to run Release and Current on
the
> > > same machine. Unfortunately at the moment the system requires
GRUB,
> > > but there is ongoing work to add the ability to the FreeBSD
> > > bootloader. Further IIRC zfs send-receive has a history involving
a
> > > developer who wanted a better rsync for transfering his work to a
> > > laptop. In addition we have pretty much Moore's Lawed our way
to the
> > > point where a new laptop today can out spec a typical server from
when
> > > ZFS was first implemented. Hiding features because you
'can' shoot
> > > your foot off is hardly a typical UNIXy way of thinking anyway.
> >
> > Boot environments work fine on FreeBSD. Look at "beadm" :-)
> >
> > What are you trying to do that you need GRUB?
>
> GRUB supports listing and selecting boot environments as part of the
> boot process.
>
> FreeBSD 8.x and 9.x boot loaders don't support listing or selecting
> BEs. Neither does 10.0; not sure about 10.1.
>
> Devin Teske and company did a lot of work on this area, and I believe
> 10.2, certainly -CURRENT, supports this.
>
> Because of BEs, PC-BSD flip-flopped between the FreeBSD loader and
> GRUB in the 9.x and 10.x releases. I think they support both now.
>
> Typos courtesy of my phone's autocorrect.
>
Beadm allows you to set the "next boot" and works as expected.
You can't select from the boot loader but you can certainly ping-pong
between a working and test environment easily (I do this all the time)
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Karl Denninger
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