On 09/19/17 11:58, Richard wrote:> > >> Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:53:24 -0400 >> From: Pete Geenhuizen <pete at geenhuizen.net> >> >> On 09/19/17 11:44, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >>> Pete Geenhuizen wrote: >>>> I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend.? Everything went >>>> well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a >>>> cursor. >>>> >>>> If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel >>>> everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel >>>> issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor. >>>> >>> Video, not the CPU, unless the CPU's also doing video. >>> >>> mark, fighting 7.4 and two users who need the 304 NVidia >>> drivers >>> >>> >> Agreed if I was using an add-on video card, however I'm just using >> the no-board video. >> > > I'm using 7.4/Mate on a Dell machine with Skylake i5-7500/Graphics > 630, without any issues. I installed 7.3 then did initial updates via > CR, and then the final ones when released the other day. Had to > change my default mate theme (due to gtk2/3 issues) but otherwise all > has been fine. >Hmm I did the same thing other than the Dell and i5-7500, I didn't use CR but waited for the official release.? I wonder if I'm experiencing the same theme issue with my mate these? If that is the what should I look for to verify that gtk2/3 is the issue, or what theme are you using? Pete -- Unencumbered by the thought process. -- Click and Clack the Tappet brothers -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
> Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 12:32:00 -0400 > From: Pete Geenhuizen <pete at geenhuizen.net> > > On 09/19/17 11:58, Richard wrote: >> >> >>> Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:53:24 -0400 >>> From: Pete Geenhuizen <pete at geenhuizen.net> >>> >>> On 09/19/17 11:44, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >>>> Pete Geenhuizen wrote: >>>>> I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend.? Everything went >>>>> well except that I can't login because the screen is black with >>>>> a cursor. >>>>> >>>>> If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel >>>>> everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel >>>>> issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor. >>>>> >>>> Video, not the CPU, unless the CPU's also doing video. >>>> >>>> mark, fighting 7.4 and two users who need the 304 NVidia >>>> drivers >>>> >>>> >>> Agreed if I was using an add-on video card, however I'm just using >>> the no-board video. >>> >> >> I'm using 7.4/Mate on a Dell machine with Skylake i5-7500/Graphics >> 630, without any issues. I installed 7.3 then did initial updates >> via CR, and then the final ones when released the other day. Had to >> change my default mate theme (due to gtk2/3 issues) but otherwise >> all has been fine. >> > Hmm I did the same thing other than the Dell and i5-7500, I didn't > use CR but waited for the official release.? I wonder if I'm > experiencing the same theme issue with my mate these? If that is > the what should I look for to verify that gtk2/3 is the issue, or > what theme are you using? > > Pete >The mate-gtk2/3 issue effects windows/menus/scrollbars and the like, not the login screen. See: <https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2017-August/165955.html> for that issue. I switched to the Adwaita theme, as suggested there.
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:40:52 +0000 Richard wrote:> The mate-gtk2/3 issue effects windows/menus/scrollbars and the like, > not the login screen. See: > > <https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2017-August/165955.html> > > for that issue. I switched to the Adwaita theme, as suggested there.Clearlooks-phenix also works fine with the latest C7/Mate and looks more like a "traditional" Gnome 2 desktop. yum install clearlooks-phenix-gtk2-theme clearlooks-phenix-gtk3-theme Go to the look and feel preferences setting on your desktop and select Clearlooks-phenix from the list. And afterward you can yum remove mate-themes if you want because it's not needed any more. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com
On 09/19/2017 12:40 PM, Richard wrote:>> Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 12:32:00 -0400 >> From: Pete Geenhuizen <pete at geenhuizen.net> >> >> On 09/19/17 11:58, Richard wrote: >>> >>>> Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:53:24 -0400 >>>> From: Pete Geenhuizen <pete at geenhuizen.net> >>>> >>>> On 09/19/17 11:44, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >>>>> Pete Geenhuizen wrote: >>>>>> I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend. Everything went >>>>>> well except that I can't login because the screen is black with >>>>>> a cursor. >>>>>> >>>>>> If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel >>>>>> everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel >>>>>> issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor. >>>>>> >>>>> Video, not the CPU, unless the CPU's also doing video. >>>>> >>>>> mark, fighting 7.4 and two users who need the 304 NVidia >>>>> drivers >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Agreed if I was using an add-on video card, however I'm just using >>>> the no-board video. >>>> >>> I'm using 7.4/Mate on a Dell machine with Skylake i5-7500/Graphics >>> 630, without any issues. I installed 7.3 then did initial updates >>> via CR, and then the final ones when released the other day. Had to >>> change my default mate theme (due to gtk2/3 issues) but otherwise >>> all has been fine. >>> >> Hmm I did the same thing other than the Dell and i5-7500, I didn't >> use CR but waited for the official release. I wonder if I'm >> experiencing the same theme issue with my mate these If that is >> the what should I look for to verify that gtk2/3 is the issue, or >> what theme are you using? >> >> Pete >> > The mate-gtk2/3 issue effects windows/menus/scrollbars and the like, > not the login screen. See: > > <https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2017-August/165955.html> > > for that issue. I switched to the Adwaita theme, as suggested there. >My situation is similar, but different: After wrestling with it for a half-day, I successfully completed the update to 7.4, but as part of that I had to "rpm -e gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.4.5-6.el7_3.x86_64 cheese totem totem-nautilus" so I could "yum update gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.10.4-1.el7.x86_64" and reinstall cheese, totem and totem-nautilus. Then I had no sound at all anywhere on the system, even in audacity and in vlc, both of which *always* work, even when sound doesn't work in firefox and other apps. Also, I wanted to check my firewall settings prior to rebooting, so clicked on "firewalld" in the "Applications" menu. As soon as I did that, at the very moment I did that, my entire screen flashed and repainted itself. But the screen was different. All the borders on all the windows were gone. Not only that, my touchpad quit working almost everywhere. I can't use the touchpad to focus on a different window, to drag-and-move a window, to click on link in firefox, to click on any buttons in thunderbird, and much more. It still works in the text areas of windows for other things... e.g., I can scroll text up and down inside of windows (using standard double-finger drag), but little else. I plugged in a USB mouse and it works on everything... everything the touchpad used to do. I mention the firewalld/window-manager/touchpad horkiness because it might cast some light on the "mate" issues mentioned above... point to a deeper source to the problem. This has been the weirdest update I've ever done. Maybe things will clear up after I reboot. I'm hoping. But thought I'd get that info out in case you don't hear from me in a while (when I eventually reboot into the new kernel).