Is it even remotely possible to run MacOSX (or Darwin) as VM under CentOS 5.10 / xen? Or am I better off not even trying and just getting a MacMini or MacBook to just jack into my LAN? I just need a 'build box' and possibly something to do light testing (eg does the program run? Does the GUI come up?). I don't really have the *physical* room for an iMac, unless the screen is tiny. I can cross-build for MS-Windows using mgwin32 and I have VMs for CentOS 6, Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, etc. Only MacOSX is missing from the 'mix'. -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / heller at deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software -- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments
It is more likely to work on a later Kernel and then and more likely with KVM. KVM shipped with 5.x and 6.x Enterprise linux is now old and fusty. A bit like your Unix beard :) I had all kinds of horrible problems running FreeBSD on these hypervisors. Try Fedora 19. This is sparkly and fresh. Ta, Andrew On 6 November 2013 19:21, Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com> wrote:> Is it even remotely possible to run MacOSX (or Darwin) as VM under CentOS 5.10 > / xen? Or am I better off not even trying and just getting a MacMini or > MacBook to just jack into my LAN? I just need a 'build box' and possibly > something to do light testing (eg does the program run? Does the GUI come > up?). I don't really have the *physical* room for an iMac, unless the screen > is tiny. > > I can cross-build for MS-Windows using mgwin32 and I have VMs for CentOS 6, > Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, etc. Only MacOSX is missing from the 'mix'. > > > -- > Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / heller at deepsoft.com > Deepwoods Software -- http://www.deepsoft.com/ > () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com> wrote:> Is it even remotely possible to run MacOSX (or Darwin) as VM under CentOS 5.10 > / xen? Or am I better off not even trying and just getting a MacMini or > MacBook to just jack into my LAN? I just need a 'build box' and possibly > something to do light testing (eg does the program run? Does the GUI come > up?). I don't really have the *physical* room for an iMac, unless the screen > is tiny. > > I can cross-build for MS-Windows using mgwin32 and I have VMs for CentOS 6, > Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, etc. Only MacOSX is missing from the 'mix'.If someone else is paying, get an imac for your own desktop and run anything else you need under virtualbox or hook to your work Centos via NX or X2go. Or use a mac mini. OSX likes to do hardware checks to make sure it is on Apple hardware. I think virtualbox has some hooks to make a virtual OSX run under real OSX by passing the hardware check through to the hardware, but otherwise you will need some kind of hack to bypass the check that is likely to break with updates. I think those hacks exist but I've never been patient enough to get anything to work. And if you aren't using it already, you probably want Jenkins to run all these builds for you. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com
On 11/6/2013 12:21, Robert Heller wrote:> Is it even remotely possible to run MacOSX (or Darwin) as VM under CentOS 5.10 > / xen?Darwin isn't going to do you any good, since you need to test GUIs. Darwin is OS X minus everything Apple proprietary, including Cocoa, Finder, Dock...> Or am I better off not even trying and just getting a MacMini or > MacBook to just jack into my LAN?Yes. :) The OS X license doesn't allow installing it on non-Apple hardware, even inside a VM. This means that you *can* install OS X in a VM on a Mac, so if you need several Mac instances, you don't necessarily need several physical Macs.> I don't really have the *physical* room for an iMac, unless the screen > is tiny.OS X comes with VNC, configured and ready to go. You just have to check one box, in the Sharing settings pane, I believe. With a Mac Mini on WiFi, you can put it anywhere in WiFi range with a power plug. There are mounting brackets available for them, too. So, you could screw it to the wall of a utility closet, if you wanted. Being a real Unix[*] it also has ssh, and everything else you'd want for remote administration. SSH access is also off by default, but like VNC, just a checkbox away from being enabled. I believe they call it Remote Access or some such, also in the Sharing pane.> I can cross-build for MS-Windows using mgwin32OS X makes a fine VM host, by the way. There are three major VM systems for it, VMware Fusion, Parallels Desktop, and VirtualBox. All three run Windows nicely. By the way, it's MinGW, not mgwin. Minimal GNU for Windows. "Minimal" here refers to the fact that it was created as an alternative to Cygwin, which is much more heavyweight, but also a lot more capable. There is a complete Cygwin cross-compilation toolchain for Fedora: https://sourceforge.net/projects/fedora-cygwin/ It may be possible to port it to CentOS. Since there are MinGW cross-compilers in Cygwin, you could probably build for Windows through that. It's a lot less up front work to build on Windows, though. [*] http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/1489/is-mac-os-x-unix