CentOS - Oct 2009 - CentOS 5.4? anyone? - "debate"

Dear All,

 

If someone asks a question such as "When is Centos 5.4 coming out"
bare
in mind that it may be because they genuinely want to know when it's
coming out, and feel that somehow, they have not been privy to that
information. To me, I see CentOS as a polished professional product
given what it is, a repackaging of RHEL, and to that end I have the
expectation of a fully fledged professional product, which includes
static release dates. (I know it's not always possible, so please, no
flames)

 

I say this with love, and all the maturity that goes with it, "I can't
WAIT for CentOS 5.4!!!" but at least I have the luxury of understanding
the process which prevents 5.4 from coming out on a particular day.  The
owners of 600 or so servers out there which I look after, like to
believe they are techie people, because they can use Google, and they
can read a few articles that say Centos 5.4 on the way. I get very
regular emails asking why there server is still on centos 5.2, and I
have to explain, if it's not broke, I'm not fixing it!

 

On TV, when you watch a commercial that tells you of the latest
blockbuster movie - there is a date attached. The next butt kicking FPS
for Xbox 360... has a release date. So many products that have a
"limited" life span (iPods, games consoles, mobile phones, books,
songs)
are planned with a "static" release date, and if that date is missed,
bad press is almost a guarantee!

 

The point I'm making, is that people have become used to knowing when
things will happen. (I believe this is illustrated in the number of
people fascinated with Flash Forward! Google is your friend). So, give
them a break - and the idiots that insult other people who obviously do
not understand how things work need to instead take the time, and
understand that the internet is no longer the domain/hangout of the
technically savvy. Even Linux is no longer the realm of only the
technical geniuses, (although there are a lot of us!)

 

When someone asked "When will *CentOS 5.4 come out??* The answer is,
"When it is good and ready", and when they ask "Why/What does
that
mean?",  ask them to Google "open source distribution release
cycle".
That should keep them busy for long enough for me/you to actually get
some work done J

---

Kind Regards,

Mr Gabriel

 

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Gabriel - IP Guys wrote:
> > 
> When someone asked ?When will **CentOS 5.4 come out??** The answer is, 
> ?When it is good and ready?, and when they ask ?Why/What does that 
> mean??,  ask them to Google ?*open source distribution release cycle*?. 
> That should keep them busy for long enough for me/you to actually get 
> some work done J
I think for a lot of us, the 'we'll release when it's ready'
mentality
is the main reason we aren't using debian.  I don't think CentOS should 
repeat their mistakes.

-- 
   Les Mikesell
    lesmikesell at gmail.com

First I'd like to make sure I am not complaining about this delay between
the RHEL and CentOS releases per se.  I did not help in any way to make it
happen faster and usually I don't mind having a three weeks gap between
them.

But I've noticed that we had two security related kernel updates
from RHEL since the RHEL 5.3 release and there is no word on when it will be
released or why is it taking so long.

So hope it would  release soon ~~~



On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Gabriel - IP Guys <
Gabriel at impactteachers.com> wrote:
>  Dear All,
>
>
>
> If someone asks a question such as ?When is Centos 5.4 coming out? bare in
> mind that it may be because they genuinely want to know when it?s coming
> out, and feel that somehow, they have not been privy to that information.
To
> me, I see CentOS as a polished professional product given what it is, a
> repackaging of RHEL, and to that end I have the expectation of a fully
> fledged professional product, which includes static release dates. (I know
> it?s not always possible, so please, no flames)
>
>
>
> I say this with love, and all the maturity that goes with it, ?I can?t WAIT
> for CentOS 5.4!!!? but at least I have the luxury of understanding the
> process which prevents 5.4 from coming out on a particular day.  The owners
> of 600 or so servers out there which I look after, like to believe they are
> techie people, because they can use Google, and they can read a few
articles
> that say Centos 5.4 on the way. I get very regular emails asking why there
> server is still on centos 5.2, and I have to explain, if it?s not broke,
I'm
> not fixing it!
>
>
>
> On TV, when you watch a commercial that tells you of the latest blockbuster
> movie ? there is a date attached. The next butt kicking FPS for Xbox 360...
> has a release date. So many products that have a ?limited? life span
(iPods,
> games consoles, mobile phones, books, songs) are planned with a ?static?
> release date, and if that date is missed, bad press is almost a guarantee!
>
>
>
> The point I'm making, is that people have become used to knowing when
> things will happen. (I believe this is illustrated in the number of people
> fascinated with Flash Forward! Google is your friend). So, give them a
break
> ? and the idiots that insult other people who obviously do not understand
> how things work need to instead take the time, and understand that the
> internet is no longer the domain/hangout of the technically savvy. Even
> Linux is no longer the realm of only the technical geniuses, (although
there
> are a lot of us!)
>
>
>
> When someone asked ?When will **CentOS 5.4 come out??** The answer is,
> ?When it is good and ready?, and when they ask ?Why/What does that mean??,
>  ask them to Google ?*open source distribution release cycle*?. That
> should keep them busy for long enough for me/you to actually get some work
> done J
>
> ---
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Mr Gabriel
>
>
>
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Majian wrote on 10/16/2009 06:57 AM:
...
> But I've noticed that we had two security related kernel updates
> from RHEL since the RHEL 5.3 release and there is no word on when it will
be
> released or why is it taking so long.
> 
> So hope it would  release soon ~~~
The -164 kernel has been in updates for some time and the -164.2.1 
kernel is in [centosplus] if you can't wait for 5.4.

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-1455.html

Phil