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Travis Northrup wrote: > > How would you like me to organize the content for these? > > > I've written up a draft for the Webmin Howto but its mainly 'how to > > install' type of information. I did two seperate install instructions, > > the rpm and tarball. > What about a yum install from Dag's repro, then upgrading within webmin to the current version? AIR, that got me all the SSL parts I needed. Of course, Dag's repro has v1.25 and current webmin is 1.30.... > > Since there isn't much to explain about the rpm > > install that was fairly small but the tarball I included example > > chunks but this ends up taking a good portion of the page. > > > Can I seperate into sections? First section goes into basic > installation portions then links into a seperate page for detailed > instructions. That will give room for other sections such as features, > modules, faq, etc. > > > Regards, > > Travis Northrup > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Centos-docs mailing list > Centos-docs@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs >
Hello Robert, If your refering to using ssl for the webmin login all you need is OpenSSL and Net::SSLeay. You can get that from a cpan install: perl -MCPAN -e 'install Net::SSLeay' Good idea on DAG repo though since he has Perl-Net-SSLeay.rpm in there , I'll include that. Regards, Travis Thursday, October 19, 2006, 8:09:36 PM, you wrote: > Travis Northrup wrote: >> >> How would you like me to organize the content for these? >> >> >> I've written up a draft for the Webmin Howto but its mainly 'how to >> >> install' type of information. I did two seperate install instructions, >> >> the rpm and tarball. >> > What about a yum install from Dag's repro, then upgrading within webmin > to the current version? > AIR, that got me all the SSL parts I needed. > Of course, Dag's repro has v1.25 and current webmin is 1.30.... >> >> Since there isn't much to explain about the rpm >> >> install that was fairly small but the tarball I included example >> >> chunks but this ends up taking a good portion of the page. >> >> >> Can I seperate into sections? First section goes into basic >> installation portions then links into a seperate page for detailed >> instructions. That will give room for other sections such as features, >> modules, faq, etc. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Travis Northrup >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Centos-docs mailing list >> Centos-docs@centos.org >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs >> > _______________________________________________ > Centos-docs mailing list > Centos-docs@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Travis Northrup wrote: > Hello Robert, > > If your refering to using ssl for the webmin login all you need is > OpenSSL and Net::SSLeay. You can get that from a cpan install: > perl -MCPAN -e 'install Net::SSLeay' > cpan install had been nothing but trouble for me. At least the one time I mistakenly thought I had to use it! You can even install perl-Net-SSLeay within Webmin easier than learning how to use cpan! This is, after all, a Centos WiKi, where use of yum is SOP. > Good idea on DAG repo though since he has Perl-Net-SSLeay.rpm in there , I'll include that. > > Regards, > Travis > > Thursday, October 19, 2006, 8:09:36 PM, you wrote: > > >> Travis Northrup wrote: >> >>> How would you like me to organize the content for these? >>> >>> >>> I've written up a draft for the Webmin Howto but its mainly 'how to >>> >>> install' type of information. I did two seperate install instructions, >>> >>> the rpm and tarball. >>> >>> >> What about a yum install from Dag's repro, then upgrading within webmin >> to the current version? >> > > >> AIR, that got me all the SSL parts I needed. >> > > >> Of course, Dag's repro has v1.25 and current webmin is 1.30.... >> >>> Since there isn't much to explain about the rpm >>> >>> install that was fairly small but the tarball I included example >>> >>> chunks but this ends up taking a good portion of the page. >>> >>> >>> Can I seperate into sections? First section goes into basic >>> installation portions then links into a seperate page for detailed >>> instructions. That will give room for other sections such as features, >>> modules, faq, etc. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Travis Northrup >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Centos-docs mailing list >>> Centos-docs@centos.org >>> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Centos-docs mailing list >> Centos-docs@centos.org >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Centos-docs mailing list > Centos-docs@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs > >
> If your refering to using ssl for the webmin login all you need is > OpenSSL and Net::SSLeay. You can get that from a cpan install: > perl -MCPAN -e 'install Net::SSLeay' Please be aware that CPAN installs are (rightfully IMO) heavily discouraged by the CentOS community. -- Daniel
I don't want to sound like a jerk here, but what does my mentioning the availability to install a Perl modules FROM a perl download source have anything to do with my question. He mentioned ssl. I told him how he could get it. Now since its "heavily discouraged" maybe you can tell me _why_ its discouraged cause I've never had a problem with it myself. Maybe I'm missing something that you know and I don't. Regards, Travis Friday, October 20, 2006, 1:19:36 AM, you wrote: >> If your refering to using ssl for the webmin login all you need is >> OpenSSL and Net::SSLeay. You can get that from a cpan install: >> perl -MCPAN -e 'install Net::SSLeay' > Please be aware that CPAN installs are (rightfully IMO) heavily > discouraged by the CentOS community. > -- Daniel > _______________________________________________ > Centos-docs mailing list > Centos-docs@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
On 20/10/06, Travis Northrup <digitalhype@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't want to sound like a jerk here, but what does my mentioning > the availability to install a Perl modules FROM a perl download source > have anything to do with my question. > > He mentioned ssl. I told him how he could get it. > > Now since its "heavily discouraged" maybe you can tell me _why_ its > discouraged cause I've never had a problem with it myself. Maybe I'm > missing something that you know and I don't. I suspect it's discouraged because it risks breaking packaging. On an RPM-based system it's generally considered best-practice to stick to RPMs. Sticking with RPMs provides a known stable, consistent, tested environment where interactions between applications and libraries are predictable and reproduceable. Now, it may be that a Perl and CPAN expert knows enough to prevent non-packaged sources from tainting package owned files but not everyone understands what's happening when they install CPAN stuff. Hence "heavily discouraged". That doesn't mean don't do it, it just means be aware of consequences if you do. My ?0.02 Will.
Hello Will, Thanks for the response Will. I think that I'll include a tidbit about that in the document. DAG has an rpm available, but I can also create an rpm specifically for this so that CentOS users will have multiple download options for Net::SSLeay Friday, October 20, 2006, 1:30:42 PM, you wrote: > On 20/10/06, Travis Northrup <digitalhype@gmail.com> wrote: >> I don't want to sound like a jerk here, but what does my mentioning >> the availability to install a Perl modules FROM a perl download source >> have anything to do with my question. >> >> He mentioned ssl. I told him how he could get it. >> >> Now since its "heavily discouraged" maybe you can tell me _why_ its >> discouraged cause I've never had a problem with it myself. Maybe I'm >> missing something that you know and I don't. > I suspect it's discouraged because it risks breaking packaging. On an > RPM-based system it's generally considered best-practice to stick to > RPMs. > Sticking with RPMs provides a known stable, consistent, tested > environment where interactions between applications and libraries are > predictable and reproduceable. > Now, it may be that a Perl and CPAN expert knows enough to prevent > non-packaged sources from tainting package owned files but not > everyone understands what's happening when they install CPAN stuff. > Hence "heavily discouraged". That doesn't mean don't do it, it just > means be aware of consequences if you do. > My ?0.02 > Will. > _______________________________________________ > Centos-docs mailing list > Centos-docs@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 19:18 -0500, Travis Northrup wrote: > Hello Will, > > Thanks for the response Will. I think that I'll include a tidbit about > that in the document. DAG has an rpm available, but I can also create > an rpm specifically for this so that CentOS users will have multiple > download options for Net::SSLeay > This is already in the CentOS extras repo, as it is a requirement for heartbeat, so no new recompile is required. All you have to do to find info like this in yum is to do this: yum provides "Net::SSLeay" or more correctly yum provides perl(Net::SSLeay) Thanks, Johnny Hughes > Friday, October 20, 2006, 1:30:42 PM, you wrote: > > > On 20/10/06, Travis Northrup <digitalhype@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I don't want to sound like a jerk here, but what does my mentioning > >> the availability to install a Perl modules FROM a perl download source > >> have anything to do with my question. > >> > >> He mentioned ssl. I told him how he could get it. > >> > >> Now since its "heavily discouraged" maybe you can tell me _why_ its > >> discouraged cause I've never had a problem with it myself. Maybe I'm > >> missing something that you know and I don't. > > > I suspect it's discouraged because it risks breaking packaging. On an > > RPM-based system it's generally considered best-practice to stick to > > RPMs. > > > Sticking with RPMs provides a known stable, consistent, tested > > environment where interactions between applications and libraries are > > predictable and reproduceable. > > > Now, it may be that a Perl and CPAN expert knows enough to prevent > > non-packaged sources from tainting package owned files but not > > everyone understands what's happening when they install CPAN stuff. > > Hence "heavily discouraged". That doesn't mean don't do it, it just > > means be aware of consequences if you do. > > > My ?0.02 > > > Will. > > _______________________________________________ > > Centos-docs mailing list > > Centos-docs@centos.org > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs > > > > _______________________________________________ > Centos-docs mailing list > Centos-docs@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/attachments/20061021/2d201c58/a...
On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 04:42 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 19:18 -0500, Travis Northrup wrote: > > Hello Will, > > > > Thanks for the response Will. I think that I'll include a tidbit about > > that in the document. DAG has an rpm available, but I can also create > > an rpm specifically for this so that CentOS users will have multiple > > download options for Net::SSLeay > > > > This is already in the CentOS extras repo, as it is a requirement for > heartbeat, so no new recompile is required. > > All you have to do to find info like this in yum is to do this: > > yum provides "Net::SSLeay" > > or more correctly > > yum provides perl(Net::SSLeay) ooops :( The REAL more correct way is one that works :P yum provides "perl(Net::SSLeay)" Thanks, Johnny Hughes -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/attachments/20061021/971872b4/a...
> I don't want to sound like a jerk here, but what does my mentioning > the availability to install a Perl modules FROM a perl download source > have anything to do with my question. Sorry, I was just replying to the quoted e-mail. > Now since its "heavily discouraged" maybe you can tell me _why_ its > discouraged cause I've never had a problem with it myself. Maybe I'm > missing something that you know and I don't. This has been discussed serveral times on the 'centos' list, so I will point there. E.g.: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2006-June/065397.html -- Daniel