Hi
Sorry to use this public place, but IRC and emails to webmaster at digium
have not helped in the past.
I have several issues with using the files server downloads.digium.com,
which has replaced the simple ftp/http file server ftp.digium.com.
In downloads.d.c the directory listing is served through a seperate
per-directory script with an obscure name.
Let's look at http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/
I get a list of items. I have to guess which of them is a file and which
is a directory. There is no proper date of change.
Furthermore, I cannot follow links directly. Links are redirections.
For instance, the link marked with "aadk" points to:
http://www.digium.com/elqNow/elqRedir.htm?ref=http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/aadk
$ HEAD
'http://www.digium.com/elqNow/elqRedir.htm?ref=http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/aadk'
200 OK
Connection: close
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:05:54 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
ETag: "26cb96-963-433e597412940"
Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) PHP/5.2.0-8+etch7 mod_ssl/2.2.3
OpenSSL/0.9.8c
Content-Length: 2403
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Last-Modified: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:18:05 GMT
Client-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:05:49 GMT
Client-Peer: 216.207.245.16:80
Client-Response-Num: 1
As you can see, that script doesn't really redirect. It does not point
me to the new file name. If I use a web browser, I still get the
illusion of a directory tree, but this breaks any decent attempt of
mirroring downloads.d.o . It also breaks downloads with wget.
There is no proper date for files as well. A casual look on the files in
the directory can no longer tell you when the version was released. Even
worse, you cannot use wget -c to avoid a duplicate download, as on the
second time you try to download, you have a "newer version" of the
original.
Another problem is that an incorrect link will not return an 404 page. It
will redirect you to the homepage.
In short, HTTP may return some codes other than 200.
Try:
http://www.joek.com/404
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Tzafrir Cohen
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Tzafrir Cohen wrote:> Hi > > Sorry to use this public place, but IRC and emails to webmaster at digium > have not helped in the past. > > I have several issues with using the files server downloads.digium.com, > which has replaced the simple ftp/http file server ftp.digium.com. > > In downloads.d.c the directory listing is served through a seperate > per-directory script with an obscure name. > > Let's look at http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/ > > I get a list of items. I have to guess which of them is a file and which > is a directory. There is no proper date of change. > > Furthermore, I cannot follow links directly. Links are redirections.<snip> Not sure I completely understand what you mean by "I have to guess which of them is a file and which is a directory." When I open any location in downloads.digium.com in either firefox or konqueror I can see that directories have a "/" after their name and also use a folder icon. That aside, I don't care for the usage of the redirect scripts either. I used to be able right-click and copy the URL and paste it into wget (browse on one machine and download on another). You can still type the "correct" URL into wget and perform the download, but that's sooo many more keystrokes. Lynx doesn't seem to work at all and with Links I have to answer "Accept" to "Java script is attempting to to go URL" every time I select a link. Drag and drop copying with Konquerer doesn't work either. -Dave
In article <20071029102317.GC6765 at xorcom.com>, Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:> > Sorry to use this public place, but IRC and emails to webmaster at digium > have not helped in the past. > > I have several issues with using the files server downloads.digium.com, > which has replaced the simple ftp/http file server ftp.digium.com. > > In downloads.d.c the directory listing is served through a seperate > per-directory script with an obscure name. > > Let's look at http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/ > > I get a list of items. I have to guess which of them is a file and which > is a directory. There is no proper date of change. > > Furthermore, I cannot follow links directly. Links are redirections. > > For instance, the link marked with "aadk" points to: > > http://www.digium.com/elqNow/elqRedir.htm?ref=http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/aadk > > $ HEAD > 'http://www.digium.com/elqNow/elqRedir.htm?ref=http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/aadk' > 200 OK > Connection: close > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:05:54 GMT > Accept-Ranges: bytes > ETag: "26cb96-963-433e597412940" > Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) PHP/5.2.0-8+etch7 mod_ssl/2.2.3 > OpenSSL/0.9.8c > Content-Length: 2403 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 > Last-Modified: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:18:05 GMT > Client-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:05:49 GMT > Client-Peer: 216.207.245.16:80 > Client-Response-Num: 1 > > As you can see, that script doesn't really redirect. It does not point > me to the new file name. If I use a web browser, I still get the > illusion of a directory tree,If you get the body too, you will see that it is actually an HTML page with a lot of embedded JavaScript. It is the JavaScript that makes the browser load the target page. It appears to be part of a package from a company called Eloqua (www.eloqua.com).> but this breaks any decent attempt of > mirroring downloads.d.o . It also breaks downloads with wget.I suspect that this is an intentional design decision in the Eloqua package, and probably desired by some of Eloqua's customers. Whether it is an appropriate package to be used by Digium to serve open-source content is another matter altogether.... Cheers Tony -- Tony Mountifield Work: tony at softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk Play: tony at mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:> Furthermore, I cannot follow links directly. Links are redirections. > > For instance, the link marked with "aadk" points to: > > http://www.digium.com/elqNow/elqRedir.htm?ref=http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/aadk > > $ HEAD 'http://www.digium.com/elqNow/elqRedir.htm?ref=http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/aadk' > 200 OK > Connection: close > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:05:54 GMT > Accept-Ranges: bytes > ETag: "26cb96-963-433e597412940" > Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) PHP/5.2.0-8+etch7 mod_ssl/2.2.3 > OpenSSL/0.9.8c > Content-Length: 2403 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 > Last-Modified: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:18:05 GMT > Client-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:05:49 GMT > Client-Peer: 216.207.245.16:80 > Client-Response-Num: 1 > > As you can see, that script doesn't really redirect. It does not point > me to the new file name. If I use a web browser, I still get the > illusion of a directory tree, but this breaks any decent attempt of > mirroring downloads.d.o . It also breaks downloads with wget.> In short, HTTP may return some codes other than 200.You are absolutely right. I don't even get a directory listing, maybe because I block most of the Eloqua stuff. Having to copy&paste the correct URL every time is just plain annoying. Regards, Philipp Kempgen -- amooma GmbH - Bachstr. 126 - 56566 Neuwied - http://www.amooma.de Let's use IT to solve problems and not to create new ones. Asterisk? -> http://www.das-asterisk-buch.de Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Stefan Wintermeyer Handelsregister: Neuwied B 14998
On a slightly different matter:
http://asterisk.org/downloads still points to zaptel 1.4.5.1 and libpri
1.4.1 .
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On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 15:26 +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:> On a slightly different matter: > http://asterisk.org/downloads still points to zaptel 1.4.5.1 and libpri > 1.4.1 . >Yes, I noticed that too and was wondering if it is just because they have not updated the site or if there is a problem with the newest versions and they do not want people to download them. -- Telecomunicaciones Abiertas de M?xico S.A. de C.V. Carlos Ch?vez Prats Director de Tecnolog?a +52-55-91169161 ext 2001 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20071031/c0d7b8ee/attachment.pgp