asterisk users - Sep 2004 - Confused of London - How to associate zap channels to extensions

I was playing around with the Flash Operator Panel, and came smack into a 
brick wall.

We have a * box linked to a legacy Meridian System using a EuroIDSN link 
(TE405p) with 10 channels enabled. I also have several SIP extensions.

What I wanted to do was to have a button for each of our (say) 32 users, 5 
of which are on SIP. That leaves the other 27 on Zap. A potential of 27 
users on 10 channels doesn't go, but we rarely have more than 8 channels in 
use at any one time.

Now, I can define a button for each of the SIP extensions easily. But how do 
I do the same for the ZAP extensions, as the zap channel number may be 
different each time a call is made to that extension ?

In my extensions.conf, I simply dial the zap extension using the zap group 
DIAL(zap/g1/4321)

Julian.

----- Original Message ----- >
<snip>
> I was playing around with the Flash Operator Panel, and came smack into a
> brick wall.
>
> We have a * box linked to a legacy Meridian System using a EuroIDSN link
> (TE405p) with 10 channels enabled. I also have several SIP extensions.
So you have 10 channels of a tie line set up between the
systems?
>
> What I wanted to do was to have a button for each of our (say) 32 users, 5
> of which are on SIP. That leaves the other 27 on Zap. A potential of 27
> users on 10 channels doesn't go, but we rarely have more than 8
channels
in
> use at any one time.
if you are setting up station side T-1 then your zaptel.conf and zapata.conf
would define the signalling parameters for each of the channels, B &
D-channels for the ISDN ZAP group, and FXS for the defined stations off of
the TE405.  then your channel bank would break out the individual channels
into a channel you can terminate to an analog telephone.
>
> Now, I can define a button for each of the SIP extensions easily. But how
do
> I do the same for the ZAP extensions, as the zap channel number may be
> different each time a call is made to that extension ?
havent messed with FOP but as I understand if you define individual channels
as extensions like I have talked about above then the button for extension
xxxx is actually defined as ZAP/YY where YY is the individual channel number
on the TE405.
>
> In my extensions.conf, I simply dial the zap extension using the zap group
> DIAL(zap/g1/4321)
so is ZAP/g1 the tie line to the meridian?  is extension 4321 an extension
on the meridian or on *.  If you need to know the status of individual ZAP
extensions then your zaptel.conf and zapata.conf will require that you
physically map a channel to an extension and alter the dialing to
DIAL(ZAP/YY,time,options) where again YY is the individual channel number on
the TE405.

hope that clears things up

Jason Kawakami
www.optellabs.com

On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 11:28, Asterisk wrote:
> I was playing around with the Flash Operator Panel, and came smack into a 
> brick wall.
> 
> We have a * box linked to a legacy Meridian System using a EuroIDSN link 
> (TE405p) with 10 channels enabled. I also have several SIP extensions.
> 
> What I wanted to do was to have a button for each of our (say) 32 users, 5 
> of which are on SIP. That leaves the other 27 on Zap. A potential of 27 
> users on 10 channels doesn't go, but we rarely have more than 8
channels in
> use at any one time.
> 
> Now, I can define a button for each of the SIP extensions easily. But how
do
> I do the same for the ZAP extensions, as the zap channel number may be 
> different each time a call is made to that extension ?
> 
> In my extensions.conf, I simply dial the zap extension using the zap group 
> DIAL(zap/g1/4321)
Welcome to the world of trunks. Your right that the channels don't
matter on a trunk and they will probably be different everytime. I would
suggest that you drop the concern about the connection as you aren't
able to track meridian to meridian calls in that app anyways and SIP to
SIP calls might also escape your monitoring. So your tool isn't
effective in giving you a whole picture anyways, so why be fooled by
what little it does give you?
-- 
Steven Critchfield <critch@basesys.com>

On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 11:28, Asterisk wrote:
> I was playing around with the Flash Operator Panel, and came smack into a 
> brick wall.
> 
> We have a * box linked to a legacy Meridian System using a EuroIDSN link 
> (TE405p) with 10 channels enabled. I also have several SIP extensions.
> 
> What I wanted to do was to have a button for each of our (say) 32 users, 5 
> of which are on SIP. That leaves the other 27 on Zap. A potential of 27 
> users on 10 channels doesn't go, but we rarely have more than 8
channels in
> use at any one time.
> 
> Now, I can define a button for each of the SIP extensions easily. But how
do
> I do the same for the ZAP extensions, as the zap channel number may be 
> different each time a call is made to that extension ?
> 
> In my extensions.conf, I simply dial the zap extension using the zap group 
> DIAL(zap/g1/4321)
> 
> Julian. 
> 
	In the FLash Panel you have to define channels one by one.  To define a
ZAP channel just create a button for each ZAP channel you wish to
monitor.  Your ZAP channels usually should go something like:

ZAP/(span-number)-(channel)

	So if you have 10 channels in your first span they sould look like:

ZAP/1-1
ZAP/1-2
...
ZAP/1-10

-- 
Carlos Ch?vez
Director de Tecnolog?a
Telecomunicaciones Abiertas de M?xico

Hi!
> > Now, I can define a button for each of the SIP extensions easily. But
how do
> > I do the same for the ZAP extensions, as the zap channel number may be
> > different each time a call is made to that extension ?
> 
> SIP calls might also escape your monitoring. So your tool isn't
> effective in giving you a whole picture anyways, so why be fooled by
> what little it does give you?
Hm... to solve this someone (?) could teach FOP to handle 
SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY and then use the "notice" standard extension in the 
dialplan...

Cheers, Philipp

Thanks all for your help on this.

Julian.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Critchfield" <critch@basesys.com>
To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" 
<asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Confused of London - How to 
associatezapchannels to extensions

> On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 13:45, Asterisk wrote:
>> I was happy with the sip->sip phones, is there is reason why I might
miss
>> them ?
>
> Because it is possible for the SIP->SIP calls to connect to each other
> and bypass the asterisk switch once the call is established. Check out
> reinvites. The hope is to create a shorter better path than having
> everything connected to a central location.
>
> -- 
> Steven Critchfield <critch@basesys.com>
>
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