I'm interested in picking up a Cisco SIP phone, but I don't have enough information to decide between the 7940/60 family and the 7905/12 family. Between the wiki and Cisco's web site, it seems clean that the 7905/12 don't have a speakerphone, and that the 7905 doesn't have a built-in Ethernet switch. The wiki suggests that the 7905/12 has a better SIP implementation and a higher-resolution screen, but that's about all that I can find comparing the two. Can anyone with both of them give me a bit more information? A few things that I'm interested in: - XML directory support: how many entries supported, how many lines displayed on the screen on each? - SIP Alert-Info ringtones. The 7960 can choose from the standard bellcore set right now, but not custom tones. How does the 7905 compare? - XML services. Is there a difference, or indeed any documentation anywhere? - SIP implementation quality. The wiki suggests that the 7905 works better, but with no examples. Are there actually problems with the 7960? - Lifespan. The 7960 is currently running v6.3, while the 7905 is running v1.01. Cisco seems to be be putting more work into the higher-end family. - Subjective usability. Does either one work or feel better? Thanks. Scott
> I'm interested in picking up a Cisco SIP phone, but I don't have enough > information to decide between the 7940/60 family and the 7905/12 > family. Between the wiki and Cisco's web site, it seems clean that the > 7905/12 don't have a speakerphone, and that the 7905 doesn't have a > built-in Ethernet switch. The wiki suggests that the 7905/12 has a > better SIP implementation and a higher-resolution screen, but that's > about all that I can find comparing the two. Can anyone with both of > them give me a bit more information? > > A few things that I'm interested in: > > - XML directory support: how many entries supported, how many lines > displayed on the screen on each? > > - SIP Alert-Info ringtones. The 7960 can choose from the standard > bellcore set right now, but not custom tones. How does the 7905 > compare? > > - XML services. Is there a difference, or indeed any documentation > anywhere? > > - SIP implementation quality. The wiki suggests that the 7905 works > better, but with no examples. Are there actually problems with the > 7960? > > - Lifespan. The 7960 is currently running v6.3, while the 7905 is > running v1.01. Cisco seems to be be putting more work into the > higher-end family. > > - Subjective usability. Does either one work or feel better?I only have the 7960, so can't comment much on the 7905. The 7960 is a very stable business-class phone that has high acceptability by non- techie users. Feels & looks like a telephone and doesn't slide across the desk when you stretch the handset cord. Spearkerphone and all work very well. The 7940/7960 have been around for a long time while the 7905 is a rather recent addition to their product line. I believe the 7905 only supports the Cisco proprietary firmware (not sip) while the 7960 supports either Cisco or sip. That's probably why you're seeing v1 verses v6.3 or whatever. The screen on the 7960 is a rather low resolution one, and therefore does not display much data. Pressing the "directory" button (and selecting external directory) does use xml to look up entries from a remote web server (apache in my case), and appears to load all entries at the server at one time (therefore, there probably is some magic limit as to number of entries). Cisco did produce an xml document for the phone. The directory function is not all that useful as you need to manually scroll through the entire list to fine the entry you want. The screen displays three entries (on six lines); first line is the name while the second line is the telephone number. Apparently some of the functions that exist in the Cisco proprietary firmware do not have equivalent functions using the sip firmware (like the ring tones, services button, etc). If you buy one, I'd suggest purchasing the Cisco maintenance (about $8 per year in US) as that gives you access to a fair amount of Cisco documentation as well as software upgrades.
The 7905G (but not the non-G) supports SIP. It does NOT support XML. -- Eric Wieling * BTEL Consulting * 504-899-1387 x2111
Eric Wieling wrote:> The 7905G (but not the non-G) supports SIP. It does NOT support XML. >So only the non-SIP phone can use the XML functionality? That s*cks. B.
You're positive the 7905G supports SIP? How did you upgrade it? Just a TFTP server? -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Eric Wieling Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:08 PM To: Asterisk Users Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7960 vs 7905 I stand corrected. I assume that the info at http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_qanda_item0 9186a008010a826.shtml is referring to First Customer Ship, rather than current, since it lists the 7905G as not supporting SIP. And I KNOW the 7905G supports SIP. I was using one last week. --Eric On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 18:43, Walker Haddock wrote:> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 05:53:00PM -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: > > > > The 7940/7960 have been around for a long time while the 7905 is a > > rather recent addition to their product line. I believe the 7905 > > only supports the Cisco proprietary firmware (not sip) while the > > 7960 supports either Cisco or sip. That's probably why you're seeing> > v1 verses v6.3 or whatever. > > The 7905 and the 7905G both run the 1.01 SIP firmware.-- Eric Wieling * BTEL Consulting * 504-899-1387 x2111 _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Yes they are normally. On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 10:11, Eric Wieling wrote:> On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 15:45, ast@uc9.net wrote: > > You need a license to use SIP firmware on a cisco phone. If you are not > > using one, and you are using the phone in production, then you are in > > violation of the software agreement. > > That is true. Are CCM software licenses and SIP software licenses the > same cost?-- Matthew Enger m.enger@xi.com.au Mob: 0412 463 080 Direct: (03) 9747 4001 X Integration A Netcruiser Pty Ltd business Ph: 1300 730 997 Fax: 1300 136 720 -- Matthew Enger <menger@xi.com.au> Xintegration
James Gardiner
2004-Apr-01 05:56 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] Redhat PANIC when booting with X100P cards
Hello all, I have a problem with installing a X100P card. Once I installed the card and Red Hat detected and added them to known Hardware, When the boot sequence gets to /usr/rc5.d/S09.zaptel start, and starts the load the kernel modules, the system PANICS Says comments like Line 84: 1861 Floating Point exception insmod ${x} ${ARGS} 1>& /dev/null Which is the line from the zaptel script used at boot time. THE THING IS, if I run the script AFTER the system has fully booted, I have no problems. The system is a 800celeron, running redhat9 with up2date up to date. Thanks, James Gardiner
> The screen on the 7960 is a rather low resolution one, and therefore > does not display much data. Pressing the "directory" button (and selectingResolutions and color depth on the phones are as follows: 7905/7912 192x53 Grayscale, Depth=1 7920 128x59 Grayscale, Depth=1 7940/7960 133x65 Grayscale, Depth=2 7970 298x168 Color, Depth=12