Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 14:06 UTC
Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
Dear Xen users, Article #1: Building and Installing Xen 4.x and Linux Kernel 3.x on Ubuntu and Debian Linux Version: 1.7 Filename of PDF document attachment: Building and Installing Xen 4.x and Linux Kernel 3.x on Ubuntu and Debian Linux - Version 1.7 - REDUCED.pdf Thank you very much. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-users
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 14:11 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
Dear Xen users, Article #2: Xen VGA Passthrough to Windows 8 Consumer Preview 64-bit English HVM domU and Windows XP Home Edition SP3 HVM domU with Xen 4.2-unstable Changesets 25070/25099 and Linux Kernel 3.3.0 in Ubuntu 11.10 oneiric ocelot amd64 Final Release Dom0 Version: 1.7 Filename of PDF document attachment: Xen VGA Passthrough - Version 1.7.pdf -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore On 29/03/2012 22:06, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:> Dear Xen users, > > Article #1: Building and Installing Xen 4.x and Linux Kernel 3.x on > Ubuntu and Debian Linux > Version: 1.7 > Filename of PDF document attachment: Building and Installing Xen 4.x > and Linux Kernel 3.x on Ubuntu and Debian Linux - Version 1.7 - > REDUCED.pdf > > Thank you very much. >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-users
Martin Wolf
2012-Mar-29 14:16 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 14:24 UTC
Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
Hi, Article #1: Building and Installing Xen 4.x and Linux Kernel 3.x on Ubuntu and Debian Linux Version: 1.7 Filename of PDF document attachment: Building and Installing Xen 4.x and Linux Kernel 3.x on Ubuntu and Debian Linux - Version 1.7 - REDUCED.pdf Article #2: Xen VGA Passthrough to Windows 8 Consumer Preview 64-bit English HVM domU and Windows XP Home Edition SP3 HVM domU with Xen 4.2-unstable Changesets 25070/25099 and Linux Kernel 3.3.0 in Ubuntu 11.10 oneiric ocelot amd64 Final Release Dom0 Version: 1.7 Filename of PDF document attachment: Xen VGA Passthrough - Version 1.7.pdf Thank you very much. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 14:26 UTC
Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
Hi, Article #1: Building and Installing Xen 4.x and Linux Kernel 3.x on Ubuntu and Debian Linux Version: 1.7 Filename of PDF document attachment: Building and Installing Xen 4.x and Linux Kernel 3.x on Ubuntu and Debian Linux - Version 1.7 - REDUCED.pdf Article #2: Xen VGA Passthrough to Windows 8 Consumer Preview 64-bit English HVM domU and Windows XP Home Edition SP3 HVM domU with Xen 4.2-unstable Changesets 25070/25099 and Linux Kernel 3.3.0 in Ubuntu 11.10 oneiric ocelot amd64 Final Release Dom0 Version: 1.7 Filename of PDF document attachment: Xen VGA Passthrough - Version 1.7.pdf Thank you very much. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
Rudi Ahlers
2012-Mar-29 14:28 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Martin Wolf <mwolf@adiumentum.com> wrote:> Am 29.03.2012 16:11, schrieb Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming): > > Dear Xen users, > > Article #2: Xen VGA Passthrough to Windows 8 Consumer Preview 64-bit English > HVM domU and Windows XP Home Edition SP3 HVM domU with Xen 4.2-unstable > Changesets 25070/25099 and Linux Kernel 3.3.0 in Ubuntu 11.10 oneiric ocelot > amd64 Final Release Dom0 > Version: 1.7 > Filename of PDF document attachment: Xen VGA Passthrough - Version 1.7.pdf > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xen.org > http://lists.xen.org/xen-users > > I think everyone appreciates your effort to write a documentation, but in my > humble oppinion it would be MUCH better > if you would write a wiki entry than sending every two days two more pdf > files that some users cant open ... > > just my two cents ... >He has been asked todo it on a Wiki a few times already....... -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers SoftDux Website: http://www.SoftDux.com Technical Blog: http://Blog.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 Fax: 086 268 8492
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 14:31 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
Andrew Bobulsky
2012-Mar-29 14:36 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
Hello Martin, Teo, I do concur with Martin to an extent. To the less-experienced user, information on the wiki will most definitely have the highest visibility for all. That said, so long as Teo is going to write this kind of stuff up, it may be worth including as a "case study" or "proof of concept," linked at the bottom of the relevant pages. I know that managing documentation can itself be a full time commitment in itself, but in the absence of a full "wiki-fication" of these guides, they''re still quite valuable to the individuals who will be using the wiki as a source of information anyway. As always, just my two cents. ;) Cheers, Andrew Bobulsky On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Martin Wolf <mwolf@adiumentum.com> wrote:> Am 29.03.2012 16:11, schrieb Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming): > > Dear Xen users, > > Article #2: Xen VGA Passthrough to Windows 8 Consumer Preview 64-bit English > HVM domU and Windows XP Home Edition SP3 HVM domU with Xen 4.2-unstable > Changesets 25070/25099 and Linux Kernel 3.3.0 in Ubuntu 11.10 oneiric ocelot > amd64 Final Release Dom0 > Version: 1.7 > Filename of PDF document attachment: Xen VGA Passthrough - Version 1.7.pdf > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xen.org > http://lists.xen.org/xen-users > > I think everyone appreciates your effort to write a documentation, but in my > humble oppinion it would be MUCH better > if you would write a wiki entry than sending every two days two more pdf > files that some users cant open ... > > just my two cents ... > > -- > Adiumentum GmbH > Gf. Martin Wolf > Banderbacherstraße 76 > 90513 Zirndorf > > 0911 / 9601470 > mwolf@adiumentum.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xen.org > http://lists.xen.org/xen-users
Heiko Wundram
2012-Mar-29 14:41 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
Am 29.03.2012 16:31, schrieb Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming):> My Xen Wiki page is messed up. That''s why I do not like creating > Wiki > pages. Everybody can edit and mess it up.Ahem. Someone tried to be helpful to others and posted (or, rather, pasted) the contents of your pdf to the Wiki page. -- --- Heiko.
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 14:42 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On 29/03/2012 22:28, Rudi Ahlers wrote:> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Martin Wolf<mwolf@adiumentum.com> wrote: >> Am 29.03.2012 16:11, schrieb Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming): >> >> Dear Xen users, >> >> Article #2: Xen VGA Passthrough to Windows 8 Consumer Preview 64-bit English >> HVM domU and Windows XP Home Edition SP3 HVM domU with Xen 4.2-unstable >> Changesets 25070/25099 and Linux Kernel 3.3.0 in Ubuntu 11.10 oneiric ocelot >> amd64 Final Release Dom0 >> Version: 1.7 >> Filename of PDF document attachment: Xen VGA Passthrough - Version 1.7.pdf >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xen-users mailing list >> Xen-users@lists.xen.org >> http://lists.xen.org/xen-users >> >> I think everyone appreciates your effort to write a documentation, but in my >> humble oppinion it would be MUCH better >> if you would write a wiki entry than sending every two days two more pdf >> files that some users cant open ... >> >> just my two cents ... >> > > He has been asked todo it on a Wiki a few times already....... >Dear Rudi, Here are my ONLY THREE Xen Wiki pages, which I have created recently and edited by Xen.org administrator Lars Kurth: (1) http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Video:_Xen_VGA_Passthrough_to_Windows_8_and_Ubuntu_11.10_with_Xen_4.2_and_Kernel_3.3 (2) http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Building_and_Installing_Xen_4.x_and_Linux_Kernel_3.x_on_Ubuntu_and_Debian_Linux (3) http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_VGA_Passthrough_to_Windows_8_Consumer_Preview_64-bit_English_HVM_domU_and_Windows_XP_Home_Edition_SP3_HVM_domU_with_Xen_4.2-unstable_Changeset_25070_and_Linux_Kernel_3.3.0_in_Ubuntu_11.10_oneiric_ocelot_amd64_Final_Release_Dom0 But somebody edited and messed up my 3rd Xen wiki page. That''s why I don''t like creating Xen wiki pages. Anybody can edit and mess it up. Thank you very much for your kind understanding. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 14:46 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
Dear Andrew, Somebody edited and messed up one of my Xen wiki pages. I will try to request Lars Kurth to see if he can make my Xen wiki pages read-only. Thank you very much. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore On 29/03/2012 22:36, Andrew Bobulsky wrote:> Hello Martin, Teo, > > I do concur with Martin to an extent. To the less-experienced user, > information on the wiki will most definitely have the highest > visibility for all. > > That said, so long as Teo is going to write this kind of stuff up, it > may be worth including as a "case study" or "proof of concept," linked > at the bottom of the relevant pages. > > I know that managing documentation can itself be a full time > commitment in itself, but in the absence of a full "wiki-fication" of > these guides, they''re still quite valuable to the individuals who will > be using the wiki as a source of information anyway. > > As always, just my two cents. ;) > > Cheers, > Andrew Bobulsky > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Martin Wolf<mwolf@adiumentum.com> wrote: >> Am 29.03.2012 16:11, schrieb Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming): >> >> Dear Xen users, >> >> Article #2: Xen VGA Passthrough to Windows 8 Consumer Preview 64-bit English >> HVM domU and Windows XP Home Edition SP3 HVM domU with Xen 4.2-unstable >> Changesets 25070/25099 and Linux Kernel 3.3.0 in Ubuntu 11.10 oneiric ocelot >> amd64 Final Release Dom0 >> Version: 1.7 >> Filename of PDF document attachment: Xen VGA Passthrough - Version 1.7.pdf >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xen-users mailing list >> Xen-users@lists.xen.org >> http://lists.xen.org/xen-users >> >> I think everyone appreciates your effort to write a documentation, but in my >> humble oppinion it would be MUCH better >> if you would write a wiki entry than sending every two days two more pdf >> files that some users cant open ... >> >> just my two cents ... >> >> -- >> Adiumentum GmbH >> Gf. Martin Wolf >> Banderbacherstraße 76 >> 90513 Zirndorf >> >> 0911 / 9601470 >> mwolf@adiumentum.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xen-users mailing list >> Xen-users@lists.xen.org >> http://lists.xen.org/xen-users > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xen.org > http://lists.xen.org/xen-users >
Sander Eikelenboom
2012-Mar-29 14:47 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
Is there a way to ban this from the mailing list ? He is spamming and annoying a lot of people, on this list, on LKML, now the president of Singapore ?!? I''m a bit running out of Zen .. (though Xen still works as it should be ;-) ) -- Sander Thursday, March 29, 2012, 4:26:52 PM, you wrote:> Hi,> Article #1: Building and Installing Xen 4.x and Linux Kernel 3.x on > Ubuntu and Debian Linux > Version: 1.7 > Filename of PDF document attachment: Building and Installing Xen 4.x and > Linux Kernel 3.x on Ubuntu and Debian Linux - Version 1.7 - REDUCED.pdf> Article #2: Xen VGA Passthrough to Windows 8 Consumer Preview 64-bit > English HVM domU and Windows XP Home Edition SP3 HVM domU with Xen > 4.2-unstable Changesets 25070/25099 > and Linux Kernel 3.3.0 in Ubuntu 11.10 oneiric ocelot amd64 Final > Release Dom0 > Version: 1.7 > Filename of PDF document attachment: Xen VGA Passthrough - Version 1.7.pdf> Thank you very much.-- Best regards, Sander mailto:linux@eikelenboom.it
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 14:49 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On 29/03/2012 22:41, Heiko Wundram wrote:> Am 29.03.2012 16:31, schrieb Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming): >> My Xen Wiki page is messed up. That''s why I do not like creating Wiki >> pages. Everybody can edit and mess it up. > > Ahem. Someone tried to be helpful to others and posted (or, rather, > pasted) the contents of your pdf to the Wiki page. >But he/she pasted the contents of my PDF document to the Xen Wiki page without proper formatting and everything looks very messed up. So it is not helpful at all. Thank you very much. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore
Heiko Wundram
2012-Mar-29 14:51 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
Am 29.03.2012 16:47, schrieb Sander Eikelenboom:> Is there a way to ban this from the mailing list ? > He is spamming and annoying a lot of people, on this list, on LKML, > now the president of Singapore ?!?+1 - he''s on my local junk list anyway, but his mails keep eating up my (precious) bandwidth. -- --- Heiko.
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 15:05 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
Dear Sander, I make changes and update my Xen documentation every now and then. Have you read through my documentation? I think newbie Xen users would find it useful to have my Xen documentation. I have consolidated, centralized, listed out every step and covered everything to get Xen, virtual machines and VGA Passthrough up and running. I have also covered a lot of topics, including firewall configuration to protect Xen networking. Just now, I was having problems with my internet connection at home. I have trouble connecting to the SMTP server. That''s why my single email becomes sent twice. I wouldn''t want to upload my Xen documentation on FREE file hosting sites like rapidshare, megaupload (closed by FBI), mediafire, etc, because I know my files are not permanent and would be deleted after 7 or 30 days. I know that with xen mailing lists, my Xen documentation gets permanent file hosting, and free too. Thank you very much. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore On 29/03/2012 22:47, Sander Eikelenboom wrote:> Is there a way to ban this from the mailing list ? > He is spamming and annoying a lot of people, on this list, on LKML, now the president of Singapore ?!? > > I''m a bit running out of Zen .. (though Xen still works as it should be ;-) ) > > -- > Sander > > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2012, 4:26:52 PM, you wrote: > >> Hi, >> Article #1: Building and Installing Xen 4.x and Linux Kernel 3.x on >> Ubuntu and Debian Linux >> Version: 1.7 >> Filename of PDF document attachment: Building and Installing Xen 4.x and >> Linux Kernel 3.x on Ubuntu and Debian Linux - Version 1.7 - REDUCED.pdf >> Article #2: Xen VGA Passthrough to Windows 8 Consumer Preview 64-bit >> English HVM domU and Windows XP Home Edition SP3 HVM domU with Xen >> 4.2-unstable Changesets 25070/25099 >> and Linux Kernel 3.3.0 in Ubuntu 11.10 oneiric ocelot amd64 Final >> Release Dom0 >> Version: 1.7 >> Filename of PDF document attachment: Xen VGA Passthrough - Version 1.7.pdf >> Thank you very much. > > >
chris
2012-Mar-29 15:08 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
+1 I don''t need notices everytime a typo gets fixed and version number is incremented by 0.1 On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org>wrote:> Am 29.03.2012 16:47, schrieb Sander Eikelenboom: > > Is there a way to ban this from the mailing list ? >> He is spamming and annoying a lot of people, on this list, on LKML, >> now the president of Singapore ?!? >> > > +1 - he''s on my local junk list anyway, but his mails keep eating up my > (precious) bandwidth. > > -- > --- Heiko. > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org > http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel >_______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
George Dunlap
2012-Mar-29 15:10 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) <singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com> wrote:> I think newbie Xen users would find it useful to have my Xen documentation. > I have consolidated, centralized, listed out every step and covered > everything to get Xen, virtual machines and VGA Passthrough up and running. > I have also covered a lot of topics, including firewall configuration to > protect Xen networking.Then the correct thing to do is either: * Put the data into the xen.org wiki, or * Host the files yourself somewhere. It''s important that we not consume subscribers'' bandwidth unnecessarily. If you persist in sending pdf attachments, we may have to ask the mail admins to block pdf attachments entirely. -George
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 15:16 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On 29/03/2012 23:08, chris wrote:> +1 I don''t need notices everytime a typo gets fixed and version number > is incremented by 0.1 > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Heiko Wundram > <modelnine@modelnine.org <mailto:modelnine@modelnine.org>> wrote: > > Am 29.03.2012 16:47, schrieb Sander Eikelenboom: > > Is there a way to ban this from the mailing list ? > He is spamming and annoying a lot of people, on this list, on > LKML, > now the president of Singapore ?!? > > > +1 - he''s on my local junk list anyway, but his mails keep eating > up my (precious) bandwidth. > > -- > --- Heiko. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org <mailto:Xen-devel@lists.xen.org> > http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org > http://lists.xen.org/xen-devellol. It''s not that. Sometimes when I notice there is a serious mistake or there is something useful to be updated, I will update my Xen documentation and increase version number by 0.1. Thank you very much. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 15:21 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On 29/03/2012 23:10, George Dunlap wrote:> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > <singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com> wrote: >> I think newbie Xen users would find it useful to have my Xen documentation. >> I have consolidated, centralized, listed out every step and covered >> everything to get Xen, virtual machines and VGA Passthrough up and running. >> I have also covered a lot of topics, including firewall configuration to >> protect Xen networking. > Then the correct thing to do is either: > * Put the data into the xen.org wiki, or > * Host the files yourself somewhere. > > It''s important that we not consume subscribers'' bandwidth > unnecessarily. If you persist in sending pdf attachments, we may have > to ask the mail admins to block pdf attachments entirely. > > -George >Dear George Dunlap, Noted with thanks. I have created only 3 Xen wiki pages recently and somebody edited and messed up my Xen wiki pages. I will request Lars Kurth to see if it''s possible to make my own Xen wiki pages read-only. I _will not_ be sending any more emails to xen mailing lists with PDF document attachments. Thank you very much. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
Andrew Bobulsky
2012-Mar-29 15:21 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
If you''re going to expend the time and effort to write the guides anyway, AND having such an arrangement is amenable to all the parties involved, I think that''s an excellent idea! I have, also, appreciated the YouTube videos you made... even though they''re a little long, and rather quiet ;) Cheers, Andrew Bobulsky On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) <singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com> wrote:> Dear Andrew, > > Somebody edited and messed up one of my Xen wiki pages. I will try to > request Lars Kurth to see if he can make my Xen wiki pages read-only. > > > Thank you very much. > > -- > Yours sincerely, > > Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > Singapore > > > > > On 29/03/2012 22:36, Andrew Bobulsky wrote: >> >> Hello Martin, Teo, >> >> I do concur with Martin to an extent. To the less-experienced user, >> information on the wiki will most definitely have the highest >> visibility for all. >> >> That said, so long as Teo is going to write this kind of stuff up, it >> may be worth including as a "case study" or "proof of concept," linked >> at the bottom of the relevant pages. >> >> I know that managing documentation can itself be a full time >> commitment in itself, but in the absence of a full "wiki-fication" of >> these guides, they''re still quite valuable to the individuals who will >> be using the wiki as a source of information anyway. >> >> As always, just my two cents. ;) >> >> Cheers, >> Andrew Bobulsky >> >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Martin Wolf<mwolf@adiumentum.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Am 29.03.2012 16:11, schrieb Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming): >>> >>> Dear Xen users, >>> >>> Article #2: Xen VGA Passthrough to Windows 8 Consumer Preview 64-bit >>> English >>> HVM domU and Windows XP Home Edition SP3 HVM domU with Xen 4.2-unstable >>> Changesets 25070/25099 and Linux Kernel 3.3.0 in Ubuntu 11.10 oneiric >>> ocelot >>> amd64 Final Release Dom0 >>> Version: 1.7 >>> Filename of PDF document attachment: Xen VGA Passthrough - Version >>> 1.7.pdf >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xen-users mailing list >>> Xen-users@lists.xen.org >>> http://lists.xen.org/xen-users >>> >>> I think everyone appreciates your effort to write a documentation, but in >>> my >>> humble oppinion it would be MUCH better >>> if you would write a wiki entry than sending every two days two more >>> pdf >>> files that some users cant open ... >>> >>> just my two cents ... >>> >>> -- >>> Adiumentum GmbH >>> Gf. Martin Wolf >>> Banderbacherstraße 76 >>> 90513 Zirndorf >>> >>> 0911 / 9601470 >>> mwolf@adiumentum.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xen-users mailing list >>> Xen-users@lists.xen.org >>> http://lists.xen.org/xen-users >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xen-users mailing list >> Xen-users@lists.xen.org >> http://lists.xen.org/xen-users >> > >
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 15:25 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
Dear Andrew, Thank you very much for appreciating my time and effort spent on writing the Xen guides and my Youtube videos. Thank you very much once again. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore On 29/03/2012 23:21, Andrew Bobulsky wrote:> If you''re going to expend the time and effort to write the guides > anyway, AND having such an arrangement is amenable to all the parties > involved, I think that''s an excellent idea! > > I have, also, appreciated the YouTube videos you made... even though > they''re a little long, and rather quiet ;) > > Cheers, > Andrew Bobulsky > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > <singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com> wrote: >> Dear Andrew, >> >> Somebody edited and messed up one of my Xen wiki pages. I will try to >> request Lars Kurth to see if he can make my Xen wiki pages read-only. >> >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> -- >> Yours sincerely, >> >> Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) >> Singapore >> >> >> >> >> On 29/03/2012 22:36, Andrew Bobulsky wrote: >>> Hello Martin, Teo, >>> >>> I do concur with Martin to an extent. To the less-experienced user, >>> information on the wiki will most definitely have the highest >>> visibility for all. >>> >>> That said, so long as Teo is going to write this kind of stuff up, it >>> may be worth including as a "case study" or "proof of concept," linked >>> at the bottom of the relevant pages. >>> >>> I know that managing documentation can itself be a full time >>> commitment in itself, but in the absence of a full "wiki-fication" of >>> these guides, they''re still quite valuable to the individuals who will >>> be using the wiki as a source of information anyway. >>> >>> As always, just my two cents. ;) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Andrew Bobulsky >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Martin Wolf<mwolf@adiumentum.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Am 29.03.2012 16:11, schrieb Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming): >>>> >>>> Dear Xen users, >>>> >>>> Article #2: Xen VGA Passthrough to Windows 8 Consumer Preview 64-bit >>>> English >>>> HVM domU and Windows XP Home Edition SP3 HVM domU with Xen 4.2-unstable >>>> Changesets 25070/25099 and Linux Kernel 3.3.0 in Ubuntu 11.10 oneiric >>>> ocelot >>>> amd64 Final Release Dom0 >>>> Version: 1.7 >>>> Filename of PDF document attachment: Xen VGA Passthrough - Version >>>> 1.7.pdf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xen-users mailing list >>>> Xen-users@lists.xen.org >>>> http://lists.xen.org/xen-users >>>> >>>> I think everyone appreciates your effort to write a documentation, but in >>>> my >>>> humble oppinion it would be MUCH better >>>> if you would write a wiki entry than sending every two days two more >>>> pdf >>>> files that some users cant open ... >>>> >>>> just my two cents ... >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Adiumentum GmbH >>>> Gf. Martin Wolf >>>> Banderbacherstraße 76 >>>> 90513 Zirndorf >>>> >>>> 0911 / 9601470 >>>> mwolf@adiumentum.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xen-users mailing list >>>> Xen-users@lists.xen.org >>>> http://lists.xen.org/xen-users >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xen-users mailing list >>> Xen-users@lists.xen.org >>> http://lists.xen.org/xen-users >>> >>
Lars Kurth
2012-Mar-29 15:42 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
That looks ugly: two options a) revert the change b) have a go and try http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Importing_documents_into_the_Wiki - this doesn''t work with PDF''s though as there is no easy way to convert PDF''s into mediawiki via LibreOffice Writer. On 29/03/2012 15:49, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:> On 29/03/2012 22:41, Heiko Wundram wrote: >> Am 29.03.2012 16:31, schrieb Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming): >>> My Xen Wiki page is messed up. That''s why I do not like creating Wiki >>> pages. Everybody can edit and mess it up. >> >> Ahem. Someone tried to be helpful to others and posted (or, rather, >> pasted) the contents of your pdf to the Wiki page. >> > > But he/she pasted the contents of my PDF document to the Xen Wiki page > without proper formatting and everything looks very messed up. So it > is not helpful at all. > > Thank you very much. >
Dario Faggioli
2012-Mar-29 15:43 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 23:21 +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:> I have created only 3 Xen wiki pages recently and somebody edited and > messed up my Xen wiki pages. I will request Lars Kurth to see if it''s > possible to make my own Xen wiki pages read-only. >It''s not possible and neither is necessary to make pages read-only. Have a look here: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki?title=Xen_VGA_Passthrough_to_Windows_8_with_Xen_4.2-unstable&action=history As you see, the wiki preserves the history of what happens to a page, so you can restore it to whatever status you like, like, e.g., this one: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki?title=Xen_VGA_Passthrough_to_Windows_8_with_Xen_4.2-unstable&oldid=2945 And I''m sure you can do that yourself (without bothering Lars) as you''re the author of the page.> I will not be sending any more emails to xen mailing lists with PDF > document attachments. >That would be great, thanks. :-) Regards, Dario -- <<This happens because I choose it to happen!>> (Raistlin Majere) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, http://retis.sssup.it/people/faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) PhD Candidate, ReTiS Lab, Scuola Superiore Sant''Anna, Pisa (Italy) _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 15:58 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On 29/03/2012 23:43, Dario Faggioli wrote:> On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 23:21 +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: >> I have created only 3 Xen wiki pages recently and somebody edited and >> messed up my Xen wiki pages. I will request Lars Kurth to see if it''s >> possible to make my own Xen wiki pages read-only. >> > It''s not possible and neither is necessary to make pages read-only. Have > a look here: > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki?title=Xen_VGA_Passthrough_to_Windows_8_with_Xen_4.2-unstable&action=history > > As you see, the wiki preserves the history of what happens to a page, so > you can restore it to whatever status you like, like, e.g., this one: > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki?title=Xen_VGA_Passthrough_to_Windows_8_with_Xen_4.2-unstable&oldid=2945 > > And I''m sure you can do that yourself (without bothering Lars) as you''re > the author of the page. > >> I will not be sending any more emails to xen mailing lists with PDF >> document attachments. >> > That would be great, thanks. :-) > > Regards, > Dario >Dear Dario, That''s great. I didn''t know you can roll back changes to a wiki page until you mentioned it. It''s like creating system restore points on Windows and rolling back changes to a known good previous configuration. Thank you very much for sharing this information with me. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 16:02 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On 29/03/2012 23:42, Lars Kurth wrote:> That looks ugly: two options > a) revert the change > b) have a go and try > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Importing_documents_into_the_Wiki - this > doesn''t work with PDF''s though as there is no easy way to convert > PDF''s into mediawiki via LibreOffice Writer. > > On 29/03/2012 15:49, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: >> On 29/03/2012 22:41, Heiko Wundram wrote: >>> Am 29.03.2012 16:31, schrieb Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming): >>>> My Xen Wiki page is messed up. That''s why I do not like creating Wiki >>>> pages. Everybody can edit and mess it up. >>> >>> Ahem. Someone tried to be helpful to others and posted (or, rather, >>> pasted) the contents of your pdf to the Wiki page. >>> >> >> But he/she pasted the contents of my PDF document to the Xen Wiki >> page without proper formatting and everything looks very messed up. >> So it is not helpful at all. >> >> Thank you very much. >> > >Dear Lars, I will roll back the changes later. I created my PDF document with LibreOffice Writer, so I don''t understand what you are talking about. Thank you very much. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore
Lars Kurth
2012-Mar-29 16:07 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On 29/03/2012 17:02, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:> On 29/03/2012 23:42, Lars Kurth wrote: >> That looks ugly: two options >> a) revert the change >> b) have a go and try >> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Importing_documents_into_the_Wiki - this >> doesn''t work with PDF''s though as there is no easy way to convert >> PDF''s into mediawiki via LibreOffice Writer. >> >> On 29/03/2012 15:49, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: >>> On 29/03/2012 22:41, Heiko Wundram wrote: >>>> Am 29.03.2012 16:31, schrieb Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming): >>>>> My Xen Wiki page is messed up. That''s why I do not like creating >>>>> Wiki >>>>> pages. Everybody can edit and mess it up. >>>> >>>> Ahem. Someone tried to be helpful to others and posted (or, rather, >>>> pasted) the contents of your pdf to the Wiki page. >>>> >>> >>> But he/she pasted the contents of my PDF document to the Xen Wiki >>> page without proper formatting and everything looks very messed up. >>> So it is not helpful at all. >>> >>> Thank you very much. >>> >> >> > Dear Lars, > > I will roll back the changes later. > > I created my PDF document with LibreOffice Writer, so I don''t > understand what you are talking about. > > Thank you very much. >That is great: LibreOffice Writer actually allows to export mediawiki markup. So you could just go to File > Export, select MediWiki as output format and paste the content into the Wiki. Works OK as long as the formatting is not too complex Lars
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 16:30 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On 30/03/2012 00:07, Lars Kurth wrote:> On 29/03/2012 17:02, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: >> On 29/03/2012 23:42, Lars Kurth wrote: >>> That looks ugly: two options >>> a) revert the change >>> b) have a go and try >>> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Importing_documents_into_the_Wiki - this >>> doesn''t work with PDF''s though as there is no easy way to convert >>> PDF''s into mediawiki via LibreOffice Writer. >>> >>> On 29/03/2012 15:49, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: >>>> On 29/03/2012 22:41, Heiko Wundram wrote: >>>>> Am 29.03.2012 16:31, schrieb Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming): >>>>>> My Xen Wiki page is messed up. That''s why I do not like creating >>>>>> Wiki >>>>>> pages. Everybody can edit and mess it up. >>>>> >>>>> Ahem. Someone tried to be helpful to others and posted (or, >>>>> rather, pasted) the contents of your pdf to the Wiki page. >>>>> >>>> >>>> But he/she pasted the contents of my PDF document to the Xen Wiki >>>> page without proper formatting and everything looks very messed up. >>>> So it is not helpful at all. >>>> >>>> Thank you very much. >>>> >>> >>> >> Dear Lars, >> >> I will roll back the changes later. >> >> I created my PDF document with LibreOffice Writer, so I don''t >> understand what you are talking about. >> >> Thank you very much. >> > That is great: LibreOffice Writer actually allows to export mediawiki > markup. So you could just go to File > Export, select MediWiki as > output format and paste the content into the Wiki. Works OK as long as > the formatting is not too complex > > Lars >Dear Lars, I have checked my own LibreOffice Writer. It only supports exporting to HTML and PDF file formats. There is no option to export your document to MediaWiki as output format. Maybe I need to upgrade my LibreOffice or install some add-on package? Thank you very much. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore
chris
2012-Mar-29 19:02 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
Plain text only plz :) On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM, George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > <singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think newbie Xen users would find it useful to have my Xen > documentation. > > I have consolidated, centralized, listed out every step and covered > > everything to get Xen, virtual machines and VGA Passthrough up and > running. > > I have also covered a lot of topics, including firewall configuration to > > protect Xen networking. > > Then the correct thing to do is either: > * Put the data into the xen.org wiki, or > * Host the files yourself somewhere. > > It''s important that we not consume subscribers'' bandwidth > unnecessarily. If you persist in sending pdf attachments, we may have > to ask the mail admins to block pdf attachments entirely. > > -George > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org > http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel >_______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-29 19:10 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On 30/03/2012 03:02, chris wrote:> Plain text only plz :) > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM, George Dunlap > <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com <mailto:George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>> wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > <singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com > <mailto:singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I think newbie Xen users would find it useful to have my Xen > documentation. > > I have consolidated, centralized, listed out every step and covered > > everything to get Xen, virtual machines and VGA Passthrough up > and running. > > I have also covered a lot of topics, including firewall > configuration to > > protect Xen networking. > > Then the correct thing to do is either: > * Put the data into the xen.org <http://xen.org> wiki, or > * Host the files yourself somewhere. > > It''s important that we not consume subscribers'' bandwidth > unnecessarily. If you persist in sending pdf attachments, we may have > to ask the mail admins to block pdf attachments entirely. > > -George > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org <mailto:Xen-devel@lists.xen.org> > http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel > >Dear Chris, Plain text only would be hard to read without any text formatting. Thank you very much. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
chris
2012-Mar-29 19:15 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
This is email not a word document. Post your formatted text on the wiki On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) < singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com> wrote:> On 30/03/2012 03:02, chris wrote: > > Plain text only plz :) > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM, George Dunlap < > George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) >> <singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I think newbie Xen users would find it useful to have my Xen >> documentation. >> > I have consolidated, centralized, listed out every step and covered >> > everything to get Xen, virtual machines and VGA Passthrough up and >> running. >> > I have also covered a lot of topics, including firewall configuration to >> > protect Xen networking. >> >> Then the correct thing to do is either: >> * Put the data into the xen.org wiki, or >> * Host the files yourself somewhere. >> >> It''s important that we not consume subscribers'' bandwidth >> unnecessarily. If you persist in sending pdf attachments, we may have >> to ask the mail admins to block pdf attachments entirely. >> >> -George >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xen-devel mailing list >> Xen-devel@lists.xen.org >> http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel >> > > Dear Chris, > > Plain text only would be hard to read without any text formatting. > > Thank you very much. > > -- > Yours sincerely, > > Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > Singapore > >_______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
Joseph Glanville
2012-Mar-29 20:56 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On 30 March 2012 06:10, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) <singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com> wrote:> On 30/03/2012 03:02, chris wrote: > > Plain text only plz :) > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM, George Dunlap > <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) >> <singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I think newbie Xen users would find it useful to have my Xen >> > documentation. >> > I have consolidated, centralized, listed out every step and covered >> > everything to get Xen, virtual machines and VGA Passthrough up and >> > running. >> > I have also covered a lot of topics, including firewall configuration to >> > protect Xen networking. >> >> Then the correct thing to do is either: >> * Put the data into the xen.org wiki, or >> * Host the files yourself somewhere. >> >> It''s important that we not consume subscribers'' bandwidth >> unnecessarily. If you persist in sending pdf attachments, we may have >> to ask the mail admins to block pdf attachments entirely. >> >> -George >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xen-devel mailing list >> Xen-devel@lists.xen.org >> http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel > > > Dear Chris, > > Plain text only would be hard to read without any text formatting. > > Thank you very much. > > -- > Yours sincerely, > > Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > Singapore > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org > http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel >Hi Teo, Thankyou for the work you are doing documenting VGA passthrough, the Xen community is in dire need of more people contributing well written and comphrensive guides. However PDF isn''t the greatest format for consumption as it''s hard to index, requires an X session to read and is much harder to edit collaboratively. As others have mentioned, the Wiki is the most ideal format we have for sharing documentation right now. Lars and a number of the other members of the community have put a massive amount of work into making the wiki the one-stop-shop for Xen know-how and it would be really awesome if we could add to this knowledge contained in the wiki. If you would like I can help you format your document on the wiki so that it is readable and well presented. :) Take for instance the Beginners guide I wrote earlier this year that presents quite well in wiki format: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Beginners_Guide Joseph. -- Founder | Director | VP Research Orion Virtualisation Solutions | www.orionvm.com.au | Phone: 1300 56 99 52 | Mobile: 0428 754 846
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-30 04:12 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On 30/03/2012 03:15, chris wrote:> This is email not a word document. Post your formatted text on the wiki > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > <singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com > <mailto:singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On 30/03/2012 03:02, chris wrote: >> Plain text only plz :) >> >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM, George Dunlap >> <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com >> <mailto:George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) >> <singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com >> <mailto:singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > I think newbie Xen users would find it useful to have my >> Xen documentation. >> > I have consolidated, centralized, listed out every step and >> covered >> > everything to get Xen, virtual machines and VGA Passthrough >> up and running. >> > I have also covered a lot of topics, including firewall >> configuration to >> > protect Xen networking. >> >> Then the correct thing to do is either: >> * Put the data into the xen.org <http://xen.org> wiki, or >> * Host the files yourself somewhere. >> >> It''s important that we not consume subscribers'' bandwidth >> unnecessarily. If you persist in sending pdf attachments, we >> may have >> to ask the mail admins to block pdf attachments entirely. >> >> -George >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xen-devel mailing list >> Xen-devel@lists.xen.org <mailto:Xen-devel@lists.xen.org> >> http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel >> >> > Dear Chris, > > Plain text only would be hard to read without any text formatting. > > Thank you very much. > > -- > Yours sincerely, > > Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > Singapore > >Dear Chris, Sure, I will put my formatted text on the Xen wiki. But nowadays, people are attaching all kinds of file attachments/document formats in emails. I am very surprised Xen users and developers are so hard up against PDF. PDF is known as Portable Document Format and it is very popular. Thank you very much. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
2012-Mar-30 04:20 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On 30/03/2012 04:56, Joseph Glanville wrote:> On 30 March 2012 06:10, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > <singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 30/03/2012 03:02, chris wrote: >> >> Plain text only plz :) >> >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM, George Dunlap >> <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) >>> <singapore.mr.teo.en.ming@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I think newbie Xen users would find it useful to have my Xen >>>> documentation. >>>> I have consolidated, centralized, listed out every step and covered >>>> everything to get Xen, virtual machines and VGA Passthrough up and >>>> running. >>>> I have also covered a lot of topics, including firewall configuration to >>>> protect Xen networking. >>> Then the correct thing to do is either: >>> * Put the data into the xen.org wiki, or >>> * Host the files yourself somewhere. >>> >>> It''s important that we not consume subscribers'' bandwidth >>> unnecessarily. If you persist in sending pdf attachments, we may have >>> to ask the mail admins to block pdf attachments entirely. >>> >>> -George >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xen-devel mailing list >>> Xen-devel@lists.xen.org >>> http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel >> >> Dear Chris, >> >> Plain text only would be hard to read without any text formatting. >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> -- >> Yours sincerely, >> >> Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) >> Singapore >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xen-devel mailing list >> Xen-devel@lists.xen.org >> http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel >> > Hi Teo, > > Thankyou for the work you are doing documenting VGA passthrough, the > Xen community is in dire need of more people contributing well written > and comphrensive guides. > However PDF isn''t the greatest format for consumption as it''s hard to > index, requires an X session to read and is much harder to edit > collaboratively. > As others have mentioned, the Wiki is the most ideal format we have > for sharing documentation right now. > Lars and a number of the other members of the community have put a > massive amount of work into making the wiki the one-stop-shop for Xen > know-how and it would be really awesome if we could add to this > knowledge contained in the wiki. > > If you would like I can help you format your document on the wiki so > that it is readable and well presented. :) > > Take for instance the Beginners guide I wrote earlier this year that > presents quite well in wiki format: > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Beginners_Guide > > Joseph. >Dear Joseph Glanville, Thank you very very much for your appreciation of my time and effort spent on writing Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen VGA Passthrough guides. Thank you very much. As for the PDF document format, I think Google is indexing it. In addition, nowadays, almost everybody is using graphical desktops with X.org X server and either GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, or Unity GUI Desktop Environments. Even normal web surfing and reading Xen Wikis would require a X session. I would be very happy and appreciative if you could hep me format my Xen documentation/how to/tutorials/guides on the Xen Wiki. Thank you very much. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore
Pasi Kärkkäinen
2012-Mar-31 10:57 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:12:13PM +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:> > Dear Chris, > > Sure, I will put my formatted text on the Xen wiki. But nowadays, people > are attaching all kinds of file attachments/document formats in emails. I > am very surprised Xen users and developers are so hard up against PDF. PDF > is known as Portable Document Format and it is very popular. >It is very difficult to edit PDFs, so contributing is a pain. When you have a wiki page it''s easy for *everyone* to edit and contribute. -- Pasi
chris
2012-Mar-31 12:16 UTC
Re: Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
Not to mention we don''t need to receive emails simply when a document is revised. With a single wiki url we know we will always get the latest version of the document chris On Mar 31, 2012 6:57 AM, "Pasi Kärkkäinen" <pasik@iki.fi> wrote:> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:12:13PM +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > > > > Dear Chris, > > > > Sure, I will put my formatted text on the Xen wiki. But nowadays, > people > > are attaching all kinds of file attachments/document formats in > emails. I > > am very surprised Xen users and developers are so hard up against > PDF. PDF > > is known as Portable Document Format and it is very popular. > > > > It is very difficult to edit PDFs, so contributing is a pain. > When you have a wiki page it''s easy for *everyone* to edit and contribute. > > -- Pasi > >_______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
Joseph Glanville
2012-Apr-01 03:08 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Teo En Ming''s Xen, Linux Kernel and Xen 4.2-unstable VGA Passthrough Documentation (Version 1.7 Released)
On 31 March 2012 23:16, chris <tknchris@gmail.com> wrote:> Not to mention we don''t need to receive emails simply when a document is > revised. With a single wiki url we know we will always get the latest > version of the document > > chrisNot least of all it makes my eys bleed. :S I am going to convert the whole thing to wiki format tonight probably. Also, how does xen-devel keep ending up in these email threads.. they don''t belong there..> > On Mar 31, 2012 6:57 AM, "Pasi Kärkkäinen" <pasik@iki.fi> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:12:13PM +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) >> wrote: >> > >> > Dear Chris, >> > >> > Sure, I will put my formatted text on the Xen wiki. But nowadays, >> > people >> > are attaching all kinds of file attachments/document formats in >> > emails. I >> > am very surprised Xen users and developers are so hard up against >> > PDF. PDF >> > is known as Portable Document Format and it is very popular. >> > >> >> It is very difficult to edit PDFs, so contributing is a pain. >> When you have a wiki page it''s easy for *everyone* to edit and contribute. >> >> -- Pasi >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org > http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel >Joseph. -- Founder | Director | VP Research Orion Virtualisation Solutions | www.orionvm.com.au | Phone: 1300 56 99 52 | Mobile: 0428 754 846