I''m just getting into Xen, being somewhat familiar with VMWare. What is unclear to me, if Citrix XenServer is free, what advantage is there to use XCP? If Xen is now a Citrix technology, why does it seem there are separate threads of product development, xen.org vs. citrix.com? _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Erich <soundy@gmail.com> wrote:> I''m just getting into Xen, being somewhat familiar with VMWare. What is > unclear to me, if Citrix XenServer is free, what advantage is there to use > XCP? If Xen is now a Citrix technology, why does it seem there are separate > threads of product development, xen.org vs. citrix.com? > >XCP is community, Xenserver is commercial. You get the latest bleeding edge stuff in XCP, you get Stability and the fancy gui in Xenserver. Grant McWilliams Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I''ll use Windows." Now they have two problems. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
It seems the fancy gui in XenServer is not free, that Essentials is required to use XenCenter? On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Grant McWilliams < grantmasterflash@gmail.com> wrote:> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Erich <soundy@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I''m just getting into Xen, being somewhat familiar with VMWare. What is >> unclear to me, if Citrix XenServer is free, what advantage is there to use >> XCP? If Xen is now a Citrix technology, why does it seem there are separate >> threads of product development, xen.org vs. citrix.com? >> >> > XCP is community, Xenserver is commercial. You get the latest bleeding edge > stuff in XCP, you get Stability and the fancy gui in Xenserver. > > > Grant McWilliams > > Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I''ll use > Windows." > Now they have two problems. > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
No XenCentre is free too. There is also the http://www.openxencenter.com/ project which is working on a linux clone. It is quite usable. But you will not get away with no knowledge of xe using OCX. XenCenter GUI that comes with XenServer does not work with XCP, it does version checking. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erich" <soundy@gmail.com> To: "Grant McWilliams" <grantmasterflash@gmail.com> Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Sent: Saturday, 27 February, 2010 1:07:04 PM Subject: Re: [Xen-users] When to use XenServer vs. XCP It seems the fancy gui in XenServer is not free, that Essentials is required to use XenCenter? On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Grant McWilliams < grantmasterflash@gmail.com > wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Erich < soundy@gmail.com > wrote: I''m just getting into Xen, being somewhat familiar with VMWare. What is unclear to me, if Citrix XenServer is free, what advantage is there to use XCP? If Xen is now a Citrix technology, why does it seem there are separate threads of product development, xen.org vs. citrix.com ? XCP is community, Xenserver is commercial. You get the latest bleeding edge stuff in XCP, you get Stability and the fancy gui in Xenserver. Grant McWilliams Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I''ll use Windows." Now they have two problems. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
When I added my XenServer to XenCenter, I get a message to activate a free 30 day trial. How do I activate this 100% free license you mention? Thanks On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:01 PM, James Troup <james@linuxterminal.com>wrote:> No XenCentre is free too. > There is also the http://www.openxencenter.com/ project which is working > on a linux clone. > It is quite usable. But you will not get away with no knowledge of xe using > OCX. > > XenCenter GUI that comes with XenServer does not work with XCP, it does > version checking. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Erich" <soundy@gmail.com> > To: "Grant McWilliams" <grantmasterflash@gmail.com> > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Sent: Saturday, 27 February, 2010 1:07:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] When to use XenServer vs. XCP > > It seems the fancy gui in XenServer is not free, that Essentials is > required to use XenCenter? > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Grant McWilliams < > grantmasterflash@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Erich <soundy@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I''m just getting into Xen, being somewhat familiar with VMWare. What is >>> unclear to me, if Citrix XenServer is free, what advantage is there to use >>> XCP? If Xen is now a Citrix technology, why does it seem there are separate >>> threads of product development, xen.org vs. citrix.com? >>> >>> >> XCP is community, Xenserver is commercial. You get the latest bleeding >> edge stuff in XCP, you get Stability and the fancy gui in Xenserver. >> >> >> Grant McWilliams >> >> Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I''ll use >> Windows." >> Now they have two problems. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Sorry, I don''t use XenServer or XenCenter so I cannot tell you much about the "whats" & "howtos" you will need to check out the citrix forums for that. This mail list is support for the community Xen, XCP & XCI So I don''t think you will get much of a response on questions of XenServer or XenCenter. Best of Luck. Just come back to XCP ;) Newer kernel, more features, later Xen 3.4.2 not 3.3.X etc. A few bugs... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erich" <soundy@gmail.com> To: "James Troup" <james@linuxterminal.com> Cc: "xen-users" <xen-users@lists.xensource.com> Sent: Saturday, 27 February, 2010 3:14:17 PM Subject: Re: [Xen-users] When to use XenServer vs. XCP When I added my XenServer to XenCenter, I get a message to activate a free 30 day trial. How do I activate this 100% free license you mention? Thanks On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:01 PM, James Troup < james@linuxterminal.com > wrote: No XenCentre is free too. There is also the http://www.openxencenter.com/ project which is working on a linux clone. It is quite usable. But you will not get away with no knowledge of xe using OCX. XenCenter GUI that comes with XenServer does not work with XCP, it does version checking. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erich" < soundy@gmail.com > To: "Grant McWilliams" < grantmasterflash@gmail.com > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Sent: Saturday, 27 February, 2010 1:07:04 PM Subject: Re: [Xen-users] When to use XenServer vs. XCP It seems the fancy gui in XenServer is not free, that Essentials is required to use XenCenter? On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Grant McWilliams < grantmasterflash@gmail.com > wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Erich < soundy@gmail.com > wrote: I''m just getting into Xen, being somewhat familiar with VMWare. What is unclear to me, if Citrix XenServer is free, what advantage is there to use XCP? If Xen is now a Citrix technology, why does it seem there are separate threads of product development, xen.org vs. citrix.com ? XCP is community, Xenserver is commercial. You get the latest bleeding edge stuff in XCP, you get Stability and the fancy gui in Xenserver. Grant McWilliams Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I''ll use Windows." Now they have two problems. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
IIRC you have to fill short web formular on Citrix webpage (you can get there from the start popup window in XenCenter where it warns you about the remaining 30 days IIRC) and then install license files (1 year free license (after 1 year you have to renew it (still for free))) via the XenCenter (Tools->License Manager). Regards Matej -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Erich Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:44 AM To: James Troup Cc: xen-users Subject: Re: [Xen-users] When to use XenServer vs. XCP When I added my XenServer to XenCenter, I get a message to activate a free 30 day trial. How do I activate this 100% free license you mention? Thanks _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On 27/02/10 03:37, Erich wrote:> It seems the fancy gui in XenServer is not free, that Essentials is > required to use XenCenter? >No. You could use XenCenter for free (as free beer ;-), but you need Essentials for advance features (such as high availabity, for example). -- Angel L. Mateo Martínez Sección de Telemática Área de Tecnologías de la Información _o) y las Comunicaciones Aplicadas (ATICA) / \\ http://www.um.es/atica _(___V Tfo: 868887590 Fax: 868888337 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users