RE: [Xen-users] Is HP server hardware incompatible with Xen?

Petersson, Mats
2007-06-19T11:35:10Z

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Fanning [mailto:christopher.fanning@gmail.com]
> Sent: 19 June 2007 12:25
> To: Petersson, Mats
> Cc: Matt Okeson-Harlow; xen-users@lists.xensource.com
> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Is HP server hardware incompatible with Xen?
>
> Hi,
>
> On 6/19/07, Petersson, Mats <Mats.Petersson@amd.com> wrote:
> >
>
> > > Why would a machine that can run linux, not run Xen?
> > > (Unless you are looking for Hardware Virtualization that is.)
> >
> > Generally, I would agree with that. I''m sure there are some
> exceptions.
> >
> > It''s also depending a lot on what you mean by
"compatible" (or
> > "incompatible"). Does compatible mean that "there are
no
> reason why it
> > wouldn''t run, but no-one has tested it" or
"It''s been tested by a
> > verifiable source". The latter case is what''s listed on
the
> link given
> > by Chris. That doesn''t mean that OTHER systems won''t
run Xen without
> > problems. That some machine ISN''T listed doesn''t
mean that it''s not
> > compatible by the former meaning (although it is POSSIBLE
> that it''s not
> > listed because it failed - most companies don''t want to get
> in trouble
> > by listing "non-working" solutions in a "name and
shame"
> fashion!). Just
> > that it''s not compatible by the latter meaning...
> >
> > I''m pretty sure that the list given is simply based on what
has been
> > submitted to XenSource for testing, or that has been tested
> specifically
> > by the manufacturer.
>
> I''d agree with that.
> >
> > Note also that XenEnterprise 3.1 (which is based on a Xen 3.0.x
> > hypervisor) has been tested on the previously mentioned
> DL145 machine,
> > so I don''t see any reason why the open-source version
> shouldn''t run on
> > this machine, regardless of what HP claims.
> >
>
> Well, I am actually looking for confirmation on a ProLiant ML150 G3
> machine, not the DL145.

Ah, sorry, my mistake...

>
> I just don''t want to buy the machine to find out that
there''s some
> problem that stops me from using it for it''s intended purpose.

Aside from my personal objection that it''s got Intel processor, I
don''t
see anything in the specs that says "this won''t run Xen".

It supports RedHat and SuSE Linux versions, so that''s saying to me that
it should work fine with Xen. It is VERY rare that a machine that can
run Linux can''t run Xen - it does happen, but I wouldn''t think
it''s
likely in this case [it''s usually on some pretty crappy motherboards
that have poor BIOS support for Linux-only BIOS calls]. I''d say
there''s
99% chance that this machine is fine.

--
Mats
>
> Thanks.
> Chris.
>
> > --
> > Mats
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 12:53:34PM +0200, Chris Fanning wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > >I have Xen running on an HP DL 145 G2 just fine.
> > > > I need a stand alone chasis. :(
> > > >
> > > > I''ve read this
> > > > http://hcl.xensource.com/?showall=no&subtab=systems
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know if it is up to date?
> > > >
> > > > Is it really such a task to find xen compatible machines?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again.
> > > > Chris.
> > > >
> > > > On 6/19/07, Matt Okeson-Harlow <matt@technomage.net>
wrote:
> > > > >Chris,
> > > > >
> > > > >I have Xen running on an HP DL 145 G2 just fine.
> > > > >
> > > > >The only issue is that I cannot use the LOM serial
console
> > > due to what Xen
> > > > >does with serial ports.
> > > > >
> > > > >Otherwise, no issues.
> > > > >
> > > > >On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 11:47:20AM +0200, Chris Fanning
wrote:
> > > > >> Hi,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> We''ve been using xen with pc clones for
some time now.
> > > > >> But now the boss wants to get serious and start
using
> > > real servers.
> > > > >> We''ve been looking at HP.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I got in touch with a couple of distributors for
prices
> > > and much to my
> > > > >> suprise, I''ve been told by one HP Partner
that Xen does
> > > not run on HP
> > > > >> hardware. (a ProLiant ML 150)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> He continued to tell me that he could offer me a
special
> > > deal installing
> > > > >> vmware.
> > > > >> This feels like FUD.
> > > > >> I would like to know your opinions/experiences.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks.
> > > > >> Chris.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > > >> Xen-users mailing list
> > > > >> Xen-users@lists.xensource.com
> > > > >> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >Matt Okeson-Harlow
> > > > >Sen gutoj malgrandaj maro ne ekzistus
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