[theora] NHW Project - some update

Dave Johnson Games
Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:25:59 -0000

You're welcome!

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 4:50 AM Raphael Canut <nhwcodec at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Dave,
>
> Thank you very much for your help!
>
> Cheers,
> Raphael
>
> 2018-07-10 9:39 GMT+02:00 Dave Johnson Games <davefilms.us at
gmail.com>:
>
>> Let me do some looking.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 4:55 PM Raphael Canut <nhwcodec at
gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Dave!
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your answer!
>>>
>>> You're right.I have thought that the new next-generation codecs
like
>>> JVET (MPEG) VVC, AOM AV1, XVC will be too computational-intensive
for
>>> mobile phones.So the de facto codecs for mobiles devices are H.264
and
>>> HEVC, I thought that my codec that is royalty-free and a lot faster
could
>>> move the lines, but you're right Apple is "attached"
to MPEG and Google and
>>> the others are "attached" to AOM.
>>>
>>> > Look to Asia
>>>
>>> I am always very attracted by new opportunities for my NHW Project!
But
>>> don't you think there will be a problem of compatibility? For
example a
>>> brand wants to use the NHW Project in its new mobile phone, but
what will
>>> happen if the NHW Project is not supported by web browsers?
>>>
>>> Anyway, I am very interested to look to Asia, would you have some
advice?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Raphael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018-07-09 23:33 GMT+02:00 Dave Johnson Games <davefilms.us at
gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> I think Apple is somehow "attached" to the MPEG
group. They control the
>>>> "pools" too. Your codec sounds great. Google could --
if they wanted to --
>>>> use it but they have Web^M and webP. Look to Asia. Asus has
just launched a
>>>> new phone. ??
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 3:14 PM Raphael Canut <nhwcodec at
gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have advanced on the NHW Project this past
month, but I have
>>>>> definitely validated its characteristics and this new
version.
>>>>>
>>>>> The NHW Codec preserves or enhances image neatness and
sharpness,
>>>>> which translates that on good quality images the NHW Codec
is globally
>>>>> better than HEVC, and on degraded (with blur, artifacts)
images it is worse
>>>>> than HEVC because it lacks of precision. I have made tests
on 100 images
>>>>> from the Internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> The NHW Project still lacks very high compression, and I
think now I
>>>>> will inspire from HEVC, that is to say, I would like to
strongly remove
>>>>> details and preserve the contours, edges. It is not that
easy to code, and
>>>>> again any help would be very very welcome! Again if you can
provide any
>>>>> help to the NHW Project, do not hesitate to show up, would
be so much
>>>>> appreciated!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> The NHW codec has a high speed, which makes it a good
candidate for
>>>>> mobile, embedded devices.There are currently some
exploration for a
>>>>> MotionJPEG replacement on low power processor (dual-core
240MHz Xtensa LX6)
>>>>> where MotionJPEG appears to be too heavyweight.
>>>>>
>>>>> With the recent updates, I think the NHW Project is still
patent-free
>>>>> and royalty-free. And just the fact that it is
royalty-free, should be
>>>>> worth the try.
>>>>>
>>>>> So with this new version, I hope the NHW Project could
attract a
>>>>> company that would like to sponsorize the project (to adapt
the codec to
>>>>> any size of image for example).
>>>>>
>>>>> Very quickly to finish, I have seen that on the Theora
mailing list
>>>>> there are employees from big companies.This can be
indiscreet and very
>>>>> impolite, but for example there are 2 employees from Apple
who are on the
>>>>> Theora channel mailing list... Does Apple can be interested
in such a codec
>>>>> as the NHW Project? If not, what does it lack to be of
interest? Would you
>>>>> have some advice?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks again!
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Raphael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
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