similar to: stress value remains so high(metaMDS)

Hello everyone! metaMDS(cm, distance = "euclidean", k = 2, trymax = 50, autotransform =TRUE, trace = 1, plot = T) (cm is a similarity matrix, in which values are positive integers or 0) I use this command to run NMDS on my matrix "cm". But the stress is very high after analysis. About 14. Actually, there is no improvment comparing with using isoMDS.

Hello, I am using vegan to do an NMDS plot and I would like to suppress the labels for the loading vectors. Is this possible? Alternatively, how can I avoid overlap? Many thanks for the help. Example code: #perform NMDS using metaMDS() function spe.nmds<-metaMDS(data, distance='bray',k=2 , engine = "isoMDS", autotransform=F, trymax=1000) #calculate the loading (i.e.,

Hello, I can draw a basic stress plot for NMDS with the following code in package Vegan. > stressplot(parth.mds, parth.dis) When I try to specify the line and point types, it gives me error message. > stressplot(parth.mds, parth.dis, pch=1, p.col="gray", lwd=2, l.col="red") Error in plot.xy(xy, type, ...) : invalid plot type In the above code, if I removed line type,

Hello R experts, I've used metaMDS to run NMDS on some fish abundance data, and am also working on correlating environmental data to the NMDS coordinates. I'm fairly new to metaMDS and NMDS in general, so I have what are probably some very basic questions. My fish abundance data consists of 66 sites for which up to 20 species of fish were identified and counted. I ran metaMDS on this data

Hi, I've been using R for a while now but I've got a problem with metaMDS (in the vegan package) that I can't quite figure out. I have a set of proportion data (from 0-1, rows sum to 1) that I apply metaMDS to using the command: nMDS.set=metaMDS(sqrt(test.set),distance="euclidean",k=3,zerodist="add",autotransform=FALSE) I am using a squared-chord distance

Hi R-experts, I am using the envfit function over an ordination of floristic data. The problem is that every time that I run it changes the results. Sometimes dramatically, selecting variables that the first time were not significant. I do not get what could be the problem or if is normal given the permutations are different. # the NMDS ordination gap_flor_NMDS_chord <- metaMDS(gaps_flor,

I am trying to plot an nMDS plot using ggplot2. My rownames are coded so that they can be broken down by Site, Species, Treatment, or Replicate based on unique separators. There are no column headers. I am having trouble coding ggplot2 to plot by Site -or- Species -or- Treatment and NOT by all unique row names. This is probably a simple question but I'm still very new with command line

Hi, I am trying to create 3 mds plots: one with axis 1 vs axis 2, one with axis 2 vs axis 3, and one with axis 1 vs axis 3. When inputting my code, I only end up with one diagram and when inputting mdsg.mds$dims, the program returns 2 for 2 dimensions. How can I create the other two plots? Any help would be greatly appreciated, Calla Carbone The table I use is number of each taxa on each

Dear All, I am using a Procrustes analysis to compare two NMDS ordinations for the same set of sites. One ordination is based on fish data, the other is based on invertebrate data. Ordinations were derived using metaMDS() from the {vegan} library as follows: fish.mds<-metaMDS(fish.data, distance="bray", k=3, trymax=100, wascores=TRUE, trace=TRUE, zero="add")

Hello all, I recently used the Vegan library quite extensively (in the context of text similarity assessment) on an Ubuntu 6.06 LTS system with R version 2.2.1 (2005-12-20 r36812). The Vegan lib is version 1.6-10. I hit on a problem yesterday, though, when trying to install R and Vegan on two further computers - one Windows XP and one further Ubuntu 6.06 machine, taking either R version 2.4.0

Dear List, This is Elaine, a postgraduate studying in bird distributions in East Asia. I want to calculate Simpson dissimilarity index, based on a presence/absence matrix of bird species in islands in East Asia. (matrix row: 36 islands/matrix column: species ID) (R package vegan to make NMDS and R package betapart) In most papers using vegan for NMDS and betapart for dissimilarity

Dear all, I'm running a set of nonparametric MDS analyses, using a wrapper for isoMDS, on a 800x800 distance matrix. I noticed that setting the parameter k to larger numbers seriously increases the calculation time. Actually, with k=10 it calculates already longer than for k=2 and k=5 together. It's now calculating for 6 hours, and counting... There is quite a difference between the

Hi, I am looking for the best multidimensional configuration for my data (47*47 distance matrix). I ve tried classical metric (cmdscale) and non metric MDS (isoMDS, nmds) but it is now difficult to choose the best solution because of the uncertainties in the definitions of the "stress" function. So, same problem, several questions : 1. Statistical consideration : With

Among those users of Primer, stress values greater than 0.3 are interpreted as "questionable". Using both isoMDS and metaMDS (vegan package), the stress values returned are much higher using my own data and using examples provided in R Help. For example Rstress = 8.3, and the stressplot r2 = 0.99 indicating (to me) that the ordination is OK. I am guessing that the "stress"

Hi! Thanks for providing great help in R-related statistics. Now, however I'm stuck. I'm not a statistics person but I was recommended to use R to perform a nmds plot and PerMANOVA of my dataset. Sample(treatment) in the columns and species (OTU) in the rows. I have 4 treatments (Ambient Temperature, Ambient temperature+Low pH, High temperature, High temperature+low pH), and I have 16

Dear R-community, dear Jari Oksanen! I use metaMDS (package vegan) to calculate NMDS. In a lot of papers I read that it is recommended to use previous best solutions as a new starting configuration to get better results and to avoid local minima. On the help page I found that a previous.best-command is already implemented in metaMDS: metaMDS(comm, distance = "bray", ...,plot = FALSE,

hello, subsequently to a NMDS analysis (performed with metaMDS or isoMDS) is it possible to rotate the axis through a varimax-rotation? Thanks in advance. Bernd Panassiti

Dear all, I'm analyzing a dataset (A) of 400 cases with 11 binary variables. Unfortunately, several (actually a lot) of cases are identical. NA are also present. I want to to plot distances between cases. For this, I obtained a distance matrix by dist(A, method="binary"). I then analyzed the obtained distance via Principal coordinate analysis with cmdscale(). Results are fine.

Dear R-helpers, I am running metaMDS in the vegan package, which uses isoMDS in MASS, to perform Nonmetric Multidimentional Scaling (NMDS). I have seen some authors report a p-value for the NMDS ordination based on randomization of the dataset. As I understand it this is meant to compare the stress in your dataset to multiple runs of randomized data. I do not see a way to perform such a test in

Hello R-user community! I am running R 2.7.0 on a Power Book (Tiger). (I am still R and statistics beginner) Presently I try to run the function metaMDS (vegan) using an existing dissimilarity-matrix. As I would like to start with this matrix I thought I could just give the matrix using the x= -argument Test<-metaMDS(x=Dist.Gower) Fehler in inherits(comm, "dist") :