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Hi all, I'm trying to perform an MDS of some data that I have. When I use cmdscale everything is fine and I get some interesting results however, the tends to be low. What I wnat to do is compare this with the Non-Metric MDS using isoMDS or sammon. However, when I try using these I get the following message. Error in isoMDS(x.dist) : zero or negative distance between objects 2 and 4

Hi, I am looking for the best multidimensional configuration for my data (47*47 distance matrix). I ve tried classical metric (cmdscale) and non metric MDS (isoMDS, nmds) but it is now difficult to choose the best solution because of the uncertainties in the definitions of the "stress" function. So, same problem, several questions : 1. Statistical consideration : With

Dear List: I have a question regarding an MDS procedure that I am accustomed to using. I have searched around the archives a bit and the help doc and still need a little assistance. The package isoMDS is what I need to perform the non-metric scaling, but I am working with similarity matrices, not dissimilarities. The question may end up being resolved simply. Here is a bit of substantive

Hi, I'm trying to do a non-metric multidimensional scaling using isoMDS. However, I have some '0' distances in my data, and I'm not sure how to deal with them. I'd rather not drop rows from the original data, as I am comparing several datasets (morphology and molecular data) for the same individuals, and it's interesting to see how much morphological variation can be

Hi, I just encountered what I thought was strange behavior in MDS. However, it turned out that the mistake was mine. The lesson learned from my mistake is that one should plot on a square pane when plotting results of an MDS. Not doing so can be very misleading. Follow the example of an equilateral triangle below to see what I mean. I hope this helps others to avoid this kind of headache.

Dear useRs, last week I asked you about a problem related to isoMDS. It turned out that in my case isoMDS was trapped. Nonetheless, I still have some problems with other data sets. Therefore I would like to know if anyone here has experience with how well isoMDS performs in comparison to other non-metric MDS routines, like Minissa. I have the feeling that for large data sets with a high

Hi; I am working with the similarity matrix below and I would like to plot a two-dimensional MDS solution such as each point in the plot has a label. This is what I did: data <- read.table('c:/multivariate/mds/colour.txt',header=FALSE) similarity <- as.dist(data) distance <- 1-similarity result.nmds <- nmds(distance) plot(result.nmds) (nmds and plot.nmds as defined at

Hello I will be applying MDS (actually Isomap) to make a psychological "concept map" of the similarities between N concepts. I would like to scale to a large number of concepts, however, the resulting N*(N-1) pairwise similarities is prohibitive for a user survey. I'm thinking of giving people random subsets of the pairwise similarities. Does anyone have recommendations for this

Dear All, I am in the somewhat unfortunate position of having to reproduce the results previously obtained from (non-metric?) MDS on a "kinship" matrix using Statistica. A kinship matrix measures affinity between groups, and has its maximum values on the diagonal. Apparently, starting with a nxn kinship matrix, all it was needed to do was to feed it to Statistica flagging that the

Hi We have a few questions regarding the use of the "isoMDS" function. When we run "isoMDS" function using 60,000 x 60,000 data matrix, we get the following error message: ------------------------------------ cmdscale(d, k) : invalid value of 'n' Calls: isoMDS -> cmdscale ------------------------------------ We checked the source code of "cmdscale" and

Dear all, I'm trying to get a two dimensional embedding of some data using different meythods, among which princomp(), cmds(), sammon() and isoMDS(). I have a problem with sammon() because the coordinates I get are all equal to NA. What does it mean? Why the method fails in finding the coordinates? Can I do anything to get some meaningful results? Thank you very much Domenico

Hello everyone, I have a question on isoMDS. My data set (of vegetation) with 210 samples is in this way: Rotfoehrenau Lavendelweidenau Silberweidenau .... 067_Breg.7 0 2 0 .... 071_Dona.4 0 2 6 .... ... I want to do an isoMDS-analysis with the dissimilarity index

If tbl is an object of class 'dist', you can do this: a <- sammon(tbl, k=3) But you can't do this: b <- isoMDS(tbl, k=3) Wouldn't it be sensible to have identical interfaces to sammon() and isoMDS() ? I think all that would be needed is to change this: isoMDS <- function(d, y=cmdscale(d, 2), maxit=50, trace=TRUE) { ...into this: isoMDS <-

Hi, I'm trying to use isoMDS to project a directed graph to 2-dim vectors, but I got an error. #here is the code to create the graph using igraph package and run isoMDS on it. library(igraph) library(MASS) g<-make_graph(c(1,2, 2,3, 2,4, 3,4, 4,5, 5,6, 3,6, 1,6, 2,5),directed=TRUE) dist<-distances(g, mode="out") loc<-isoMDS(dist) # below is content of the dist matrix

Hello all- I'm having some problems with memory consumption under R. I've tried increasing the appropriate memory values, but it keeps asking for more; I've even upped the heap size to 600M, significantly eating into swap (256M real, 500+M swap). So, performance slows to a crawl. What I'm trying to do is run isoMDS on a 4000x4000 matrix. My first question is, how much memory

Dear all, I'm analyzing a dataset (A) of 400 cases with 11 binary variables. Unfortunately, several (actually a lot) of cases are identical. NA are also present. I want to to plot distances between cases. For this, I obtained a distance matrix by dist(A, method="binary"). I then analyzed the obtained distance via Principal coordinate analysis with cmdscale(). Results are fine.

Dear All, I am not familar with R. I want to use PCA (principal components analysis) and MDS (multidimensional scaling). Can someone tell me which R package I should use for PCA and MDS? I appreciate your help in advance. Ray

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Dear List, I'm trying to interpret the results of the Kruskal's Non-metric Multidimensional Scaling algorithm (isoMDS, MASS package). The 'goodness of fit' is reported as "The final stress achieved (in percent)". What does this mean exactly? I've tried to google for an answer but I've not come up with a definitive answer. Regards, Dieter -- Dieter Vanderelst

Hi, I have tried to develop multidimensional scaling for 3D space using PCA without success, yet;-) Is there some application ready in R? Cheers, Atte