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Hi again Sorry, in looking again at sammon and isoMDS I see that they seem to do exactly what I want, except that they are non-metric, which means, as I understand it, that they relate the rank orders of the variables rather than the actual distances. Could I use these non-metric MDS packages even if my distances are metric? Thanks Karen -- Karen Kotschy Centre for Water in the Environment

Hi, I need math function which is used in: isoMDS, Sammon and metaMDS method. Anybody know where I may find it? Any manual or webside? I would be very happy Thanks a lot ! -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/math-function-MDS-method-tp1008294p1008294.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Hi, I am looking for the best multidimensional configuration for my data (47*47 distance matrix). I ve tried classical metric (cmdscale) and non metric MDS (isoMDS, nmds) but it is now difficult to choose the best solution because of the uncertainties in the definitions of the "stress" function. So, same problem, several questions : 1. Statistical consideration : With

Hello I will be applying MDS (actually Isomap) to make a psychological "concept map" of the similarities between N concepts. I would like to scale to a large number of concepts, however, the resulting N*(N-1) pairwise similarities is prohibitive for a user survey. I'm thinking of giving people random subsets of the pairwise similarities. Does anyone have recommendations for this

Dear List, I'm trying to interpret the results of the Kruskal's Non-metric Multidimensional Scaling algorithm (isoMDS, MASS package). The 'goodness of fit' is reported as "The final stress achieved (in percent)". What does this mean exactly? I've tried to google for an answer but I've not come up with a definitive answer. Regards, Dieter -- Dieter Vanderelst

Hi; I am working with the similarity matrix below and I would like to plot a two-dimensional MDS solution such as each point in the plot has a label. This is what I did: data <- read.table('c:/multivariate/mds/colour.txt',header=FALSE) similarity <- as.dist(data) distance <- 1-similarity result.nmds <- nmds(distance) plot(result.nmds) (nmds and plot.nmds as defined at

Hi, I just encountered what I thought was strange behavior in MDS. However, it turned out that the mistake was mine. The lesson learned from my mistake is that one should plot on a square pane when plotting results of an MDS. Not doing so can be very misleading. Follow the example of an equilateral triangle below to see what I mean. I hope this helps others to avoid this kind of headache.

Dear All, I am not familar with R. I want to use PCA (principal components analysis) and MDS (multidimensional scaling). Can someone tell me which R package I should use for PCA and MDS? I appreciate your help in advance. Ray

What are the limitations on size of matrix for MDS functions? steve -- Steve Antos Priva-Technologies 847-640-9020 x3114 cell (540)409-1231 [[alternative HTML version deleted]]

Hi, I have tried to develop multidimensional scaling for 3D space using PCA without success, yet;-) Is there some application ready in R? Cheers, Atte

If tbl is an object of class 'dist', you can do this: a <- sammon(tbl, k=3) But you can't do this: b <- isoMDS(tbl, k=3) Wouldn't it be sensible to have identical interfaces to sammon() and isoMDS() ? I think all that would be needed is to change this: isoMDS <- function(d, y=cmdscale(d, 2), maxit=50, trace=TRUE) { ...into this: isoMDS <-

Dear useRs, last week I asked you about a problem related to isoMDS. It turned out that in my case isoMDS was trapped. Nonetheless, I still have some problems with other data sets. Therefore I would like to know if anyone here has experience with how well isoMDS performs in comparison to other non-metric MDS routines, like Minissa. I have the feeling that for large data sets with a high

i know cmdscale and isoMDS inR can do classical and non-metric MDS.but i want to konw if there is packages can carry on "individual differences scaling" and "multidimensional analysis og preference"?both method are important one,but i can not find any clue on how to do it using R. anyone can help? thank you!

Dear all, I'm trying to get a two dimensional embedding of some data using different meythods, among which princomp(), cmds(), sammon() and isoMDS(). I have a problem with sammon() because the coordinates I get are all equal to NA. What does it mean? Why the method fails in finding the coordinates? Can I do anything to get some meaningful results? Thank you very much Domenico

Dear All, I am in the somewhat unfortunate position of having to reproduce the results previously obtained from (non-metric?) MDS on a "kinship" matrix using Statistica. A kinship matrix measures affinity between groups, and has its maximum values on the diagonal. Apparently, starting with a nxn kinship matrix, all it was needed to do was to feed it to Statistica flagging that the

I apply isoMDS to my data, but the result turns out to be bad as the stress value stays around 31! Yeah, 31 ,not 3.1... I don't know if I ignore something before recall isoMDS. My code as follow: m <- read.table("e:/tsdata.txt",header=T,sep=",") article_number <- ts(m, start = 2004,end=2008, frequency = 1 ,names=colnames(m))

Dear List: I have a question regarding an MDS procedure that I am accustomed to using. I have searched around the archives a bit and the help doc and still need a little assistance. The package isoMDS is what I need to perform the non-metric scaling, but I am working with similarity matrices, not dissimilarities. The question may end up being resolved simply. Here is a bit of substantive

Hi, I'm trying to do a non-metric multidimensional scaling using isoMDS. However, I have some '0' distances in my data, and I'm not sure how to deal with them. I'd rather not drop rows from the original data, as I am comparing several datasets (morphology and molecular data) for the same individuals, and it's interesting to see how much morphological variation can be

A student of mine wants to use R to do some nonmetric multidimensional scaling. According to the R FAQ, there's a package called pcurve that computes multidimensional scaling solutions, but I was not able to locate it the contrib page (I am a Windows user with R version 1.4.1). Can anyone tell me whether it is possible to do nonmetric multidimensional scaling with R, and if so, how? John

Colleagues, I'm developing a library of functions for community ecology analyses and have a couple of questions that I've not been able to answer via faqs or docs. 1) Are there existing functions for: a) Bray-Curtis (polar) ordination? b) non-metric multidimensional scaling (NMDS)? c) canonical correlation analyses (CCA and DCA)? d) TWINSPAN (doubtful...)? 2) If not,