similar to: Ogg/Spots and Ogg/MNG

> Ogg/Spots has no implementation since we agreed that Ogg/MNG would > fully cover all the functionality of Ogg/Spots. However, Ogg/MNG has > not progressed as much as we would all have liked. > > So, if you would like to get images into Ogg, I'd recommend > improving/implementing Ogg/MNG support. :-) I'd looked at MNG (which I didn't know about at the time) and to

Hi, please ignore this message if this is a stupid question: Would supporting APNG instead be any easier? Cheers, KJ On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Ian Malone <ibmalone at gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/04/2008, ogg.k.ogg.k at googlemail.com <ogg.k.ogg.k at googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Ogg/Spots has no implementation since we agreed that Ogg/MNG would > > >

> The thing about the mng libraries is they seem designed in such a way > the using them to do simple timed display of mng is fairly easy, but > extracting static images becomes painful. I had been thinking about > doing something to read only the jpeg/png subset, but thesis writing > has taken me off ogg stuff for the past few months. I'm still of the > opinion this might

On 11/04/2008, ogg.k.ogg.k at googlemail.com <ogg.k.ogg.k at googlemail.com> wrote: > > Ogg/Spots has no implementation since we agreed that Ogg/MNG would > > fully cover all the functionality of Ogg/Spots. However, Ogg/MNG has > > not progressed as much as we would all have liked. > > > > So, if you would like to get images into Ogg, I'd recommend >

> > I did see references to Skeleton, I'll have a look at it. I didn't > > realize it was used widely > > It's not widely used currently. The idea is to make that happen. Oh, I get you now. > CMML does of course other things besides subtitles. Subtitle support > was pretty much just added recently. Kate however does not seem to > offer more than CMML in

On 4/11/08, Ian Malone <ibmalone at gmail.com> wrote: > I'm still of the opinion this might be a useful thing to do (to provide the > album art and things that crazy people want to put into sound files). Ah, album art. People won't shup up about it, even though it has always been theoretically possible to embed pictures in Ogg. I hope we can establish this year how to do

We have new drafts of CMML 4.0 as a text codec and ROE as an xml stream abstract, subsuming the authoring support in CMML 3.1 and earlier. Another thing we talked about at LCA is a how to specify relationships between the various streams in Ogg so that a server, muxer or player can make intelligent decisions about the contained tracks. The general idea is to use the (http-style) Message

On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:01:11 +1000 Silvia Pfeiffer <silvia at silvia-pfeiffer.de> wrote: > Hi BCXA, > > CMML is deprecated. You should use KATE instead. > > Cheers, > Silvia. ok i admit this statement came as a surprise for me. cmml is about metadate/annotations, how can it be replaced by KATE ( which is mainly about subtitles as far as i can see? startx

With both vorbis and libmng nearing stable status, I've been thinking about combining the two to make a real multimedia format. What would be involved in embedding mng in an ogg bitstream? From what I've read of the documentation, there doesn't seem to be any codec-enumeration system. Do we just interleave the packets and let the player guess based on the headers which codec to try? I

I'm trying to create files that contain a video stream, one or more audio streams, subtitles, and DVD-like chapter information. ATM, I use ogm containers that can handle all this. But although ogm is supported e.g. by xine (including chapters), it seems to be an unofficial hack. Is that correct? I'd like to move to ogg containers, since ogm doesn't support theora videos. My final

Hi, (odd, I did get this reply for Silvia, but not the original post) > There is CMML and kate support in vlc, and kate in mplayer though I am > not sure how it is displayed on-screen. Subtitles may display, but > chapter markers, I am not so sure about. Would you mind expanding on what chapters are, and what you'd expect to be able to do with them ? > There is an old python

Thanks for the feedback, > I have looked into the patch. It doesn't take into consideration > neither Skeleton, which is used now in pretty much everything encoded > in Ogg (except for single stream Vorbis and Speex files), nor the file > extension for Theora, which is now .ogv. To be honest, I just added Theora because I needed a simple way to multiplex streams. Also, it'd

On 4/11/08, ogg.k.ogg.k at googlemail.com <ogg.k.ogg.k at googlemail.com> wrote: > how (or do you mean ogg/mng or spots) ? People want an official standard on how to embed JPEG/PNG in single stream Vorbis files, because one of the extensions/hacks of MP3 ID3 allows it. > uuencode ^_^ Hmm...

Beside that, multiplexed logical streams suffer from pretty bad software / hardware support, isn't it? It's better to display album art as text if the player doesn't recognize the base64 album art, than being unable to even play the file. ----- Urspr?ngliche Mail ---- Von: Kyungjun Lee <kjoonlee at gmail.com> An: xiphmont at xiph.org CC: vorbis-dev at xiph.org Gesendet:

Hi, I recognize the main name behind CMML here :) Does the redesigning of CMML allow overlapping clips ? This is the main reason of my current ramblings about seeking. While karaoke was one of the initial goals behind kate, it is just a way the format can be used with (in fact, the format itself does not refer to karaoke at all, but styles and motions). At the moment, it is a fairly versatile

Hi, I've now uploaded the preliminary documentation on the xiph wiki: http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/OggKate Attached is the current source tree for the libkate library. The tarball also contains the patch to oggmerge (which you will need to apply if you want to merge Kate streams with Vorbis or Theora streams) and the patch to MPlayer to use Kate streams as subtitles. An example is

Hi all, I am trying to set up the codecs table in the wiki and we have played a bit with Dirac to find out what existing tools write into the header. The Schroedinger implementation by Fluendo uses (or used to use) "KW-DIRAC" as the identifier in the Ogg header. "BBCD" is the identifier of each of the Dirac data packages. More recently, I read that the Dirac Sequence header

>> (odd, I did get this reply for Silvia, but not the original post) > > Hmm, it was properly CCed to the list. Yes, I found it in the spam bucket for some reason... > Chapters are a list of timepoints stored in the metadata. They are an > information for player software that is usually used to allow the user > to jump to certain significant points within a stream. This

Hi there, I'm not sure what the right place would be, please direct me to where is most appropriate if not this list. I am currently working on a codec designed for karaoke and text information, to be embedded in an Ogg container. It includes text, motion information, and style/placement. At the moment, the bitstream design is still in flux, but draws heavily from Vorbis and Theora, while

> Some of the things you talk about were not solved at the CMML level, but > rather through using different Ogg > logical bitstreams. While this is possible to do it this way (and probably a good idea for the examples like a clock in a corner), it implies that all the placements and logically different "items" are known at the start of the stream (since the Ogg spec says a