similar to: non-decreasing granulepos

2008/11/15 David Flynn <davidf+nntp at woaf.net>: > On 2008-11-14, Conrad Parker <conrad at metadecks.org> wrote: >> It seems oggz chop, merge and sort will need some attention to deal >> with the Dirac granulepos and dependency ordering, so let's leave them >> for the next release. > > ok. -- may be worth having them 'warn' if they are operating

2008/11/21 David Flynn <davidf+nntp at woaf.net>: > On 2008-11-21, Conrad Parker <conrad at metadecks.org> wrote: >> 2008/11/15 David Flynn <davidf+nntp at woaf.net>: >>> On 2008-11-14, Conrad Parker <conrad at metadecks.org> wrote: >>>> It seems oggz chop, merge and sort will need some attention to deal >>>> with the Dirac

David Flynn has proposed a new Ogg Dirac mapping. The draft is here: http://davidf.woaf.net/dirac-mapping-ogg.pdf This is a much bigger break from other codecs than my draft (at http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/OggDirac). We talked a bit about it on IRC today. Below is my summary; hopefully David can correct anything I got wrong or misleading. Comments? There are two main differences

The definition of granule position for an OggDirac elementary stream isn't the same as theora. Index: tools/oggz_tools.c =================================================================== --- tools/oggz_tools.c (revision 3759) +++ tools/oggz_tools.c (working copy) @@ -454,7 +454,15 @@ iframe = granulepos >> granuleshift; pframe = granulepos - (iframe << granuleshift);

Hi, do you still think you need all this, if you are allowed to have equal granulepos on subsequent pages? Conrad. On 18/02/2008, ogg.k.ogg.k@googlemail.com <ogg.k.ogg.k@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I've now got another way of encoding granule (oh, not *again*, I hear > you cry). I believe it's an improvement over the existing "generic" > method, so

On 10 May 2010 23:20, Chris Pearce <chris at pearce.org.nz> wrote: > The granulepos radix was something that Conrad and Ralph were talking about > at FOMS2010. I don't know how it's supposed to be used, or why we need it. > It was supposed to be needed for Dirac? Maybe Ralph or Conrad can remember? > If not, we should remove it. There's no point in adding a poorly

Ups! Maybe it's time somebody corrected that statement then - the wiki seems the right place to put the correct algorithm, IMHO. Cheers, Silvia. On Feb 13, 2008 10:06 AM, Ralph Giles <ralph.giles@artifex.com> wrote: > > On 12-Feb-08, at 2:57 PM, Ralph Giles wrote: > > > http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/GranulePosAndSeeking > > I'm not sure it's helpful to

Monty, Thanks for writing up your thoughts on the mux design (ogg/doc/ogg-multiplex.html in cvs) Now that there's something to argue with, I'd like to comment. To recap, the documented proposal is that we make two categories of streams within the OggFile multiplexing library. Pages are sorted chronologically by the timestamp equivalent of their granulepos fields. Normal data like

Hello, I'm just totally confused. In my theora streams encoded using ffmpeg2theora (but also when using my own encoder) I have packets with a granulepos of -1 so I can't identify the packet during a seeking operation correctly. I can also see those strange value when I just print the packet granulepos before sending it to the Theora decoder. I know why there are PAGES with granularpos of

2008/11/14 David Flynn <davidf+nntp at woaf.net>: > On 2008-11-13, Conrad Parker <conrad at metadecks.org> wrote: >> I'm wondering if the Dirac granulepos parsing in liboggz and display >> in the oggz tools is currently correct, as I'd like to do a release of >> these soon. > > I believe it is -- although if correct support in the rest of the >

Hi all ! Following my recent issued with my encoder, I've narrowed the issue to the fact that, when encoding, for some returned pages, the granulepos returned by the libogg is -1. Is that normal ? How should I intepret it if I want to order the pages ? Romain

Hi all, I noticed the following Subversion commit today: r6719 | xiphmont | 2004-05-18 16:04:53 +1000 (Tue, 18 May 2004) | 11 lines Updated doc to reflect current proposal... Not as much a proposal at this point actually; this is the way I'm now implementing it. Although we're still in the 'RFC'/'look for horrible lossage' stage, this is close to being

I've been looking over Benjamin Schwartz's Skeleton A-mod proposal. I've been pretty busy with other projects over the past few months, so haven't had a chance to look at Ogg indexing until now... In general, I think Benjamin's ideas are sound, they're improvements, and I'm open to being convinced to take them in the next index version. We may as well get the index

On 12-Feb-08, at 2:54 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > I've added Monty's email to the wiki at http://wiki.xiph.org/ > index.php/GranulePosAndSeeking , but I was unable to edit the wiki > entry page and add a "Granulepos and Seeking" link under the > "developer resources" section. Maybe somebody with more rights on > the wiki could add this. I'm

I'm hoping this is a new proposal, and not a rehash of something that's already been discussed and shot down. Without logs of the recent IRC discussion there's no way for me to know without asking. When I suggested it in #theora earlier derf_ or AndrewBachmann said that it had already been discussed, so I'm under the belief that this is a new idea. <p>Ok so we've

> The advantage of storing this in the granulepos field itself, like > theora and CMML do, is that the seek code may already understand how > to handle the back pointer. Right now everything assumes the mapping > is from 'initialized decoder' + 'granulepos from page header' => > timestamp, or in the case of theora and CMML => 'timestamp' + 'last

On 2008-11-21, Conrad Parker <conrad at metadecks.org> wrote: > 2008/11/15 David Flynn <davidf+nntp at woaf.net>: >> On 2008-11-14, Conrad Parker <conrad at metadecks.org> wrote: >>> It seems oggz chop, merge and sort will need some attention to deal >>> with the Dirac granulepos and dependency ordering, so let's leave them >>> for the next

dear list, i am trying to write a small program which reads an ogg file and writes it to another ogg file (and changes serial number, granulepos etc on the fly). reading the ogg file is ok (ogg_sync_pageout, ogg_stream_pagein, ogg_stream_packetout). but writing the file doesn't work - the granulepos and page structures don't match with the original file. here's what i am doing.

> No particular answers, but I can at least point out that the way > things were designed for CMML was to work with the existing Ogg > seeking algorithm. The idea is that a generic seeking routine can work > on any Ogg file, as long as it knows the granulepos->time mapping for > the logical bitstreams in the file. That's why all the > timestamp-related info is crammed into

On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 14:35 -0700, Ralph Giles wrote: > On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 02:17:22PM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > > I'm working on support for tagging Speex files for Mutagen[0] and part > > of the specification at [1] is confusing me. It says the first page > > should have granulepos 0 and packetno 0. Does this really mean page > > sequence number 0,