similar to: AEC Troubles

Thanks for alerting me to the new changes. I just tried the latest code from SVN, but unfortunately I still have just about the same results. The estimated echo that gets subtracted from the actual echo is such a small signal that it doesn't really result in any noticeable echo attenuation. I currently have my filter size set to 2 seconds even though the echo in my microphone file is only

I ran some further tests on mdf and here are the results: 1. reduced tail length to 100ms, aligned mic and speaker signals to within 10ms - almost no echo attenuation 2. aligned mic and speaker signals to within 5 samples - still almost no echo attenuation 3. ran testecho using the same file for mic and speaker - very good echo cancellation (of course this is expected, but I needed to do a sanity

I've tried some further debugging to see what mdf is actually doing. Instead of sending: tmp_out = (float)ref[i] - st->y[i+st->frame_size] to the output, I just sent st->y[i+st->frame_size] to see what was being subtracted from the microphone input. When I open this in Audacity, I see a very small signal at about -40dBm. The actual echo in my sample has a power closer to -20dBm.

Le vendredi 11 novembre 2005 ? 01:21 -0800, Duane Storey a ?crit : > This is a very real problem though.. I've encountered many sound cards that > use different clocks for input and output (even on the same card!) Also, if > you open up a sound device on windows at 8kHz, the microphone is often > around 8100Hz, while the output is 8000Hz.. I'm not sure if there's a bug >

To everyone on the list: do *NOT* attempt to do echo cancellation with signals sampled using different clocks. This will *NOT* work. Just a 0.1% difference between the two sampling rates (it's sometimes worse than that) means that the impulse response drifts by 8 samples every second. There's just no way to efficiently track this. Or at least no way that doesn't involve something 100x

If more than one speaker receives the *same* signal, it doesn't matter the number of speakers. It only gets tricky when the speakers are playing slightly different signals (e.g. from a stereo song). Jean-Marc Quoting Greger Burman <greger at mobile-robotics.com>: > One thing I can think of is if you are using two or more speakers. If the > speakers are not at the exact same

Hello. I have the following situation. AEC is used in network chat software over DirectSound API. Echo and reference signals are almost aligned (delay is no more than 30ms). When echo is emulated in notebook (built-in speakers + mic) everything goes fine and echo is cancelled. But when configuration includes stand-alone speakers and mic no echo is removed. Audio is in 22050 hz at 16 bit

I'm pretty much sure of it. When I test inverting the inputs, my output is pretty much the same as my speaker signal. Whereas the way that I normally test the output is my mic signal with very little attenuation. If you are interested I can send my test files; they are about 94KB each. -Jason --- Jean-Marc Valin <jean-marc.valin@usherbrooke.ca> wrote: > Are you sure you're

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Had a try. The reason why a simple delay is not that good is mainly due to the initialization of the filter parameter that still takes a few seconds (if they are perfectly in sync, you sort of get lucky). Otherwise, you real recording seems to have something odd in it. Are you sampling from a different card then the one that's playing the sound? or maybe the mic (or something else) in the room

I actually forgot to mention that I'm using ultra-wideband mode, but seems like you understood that anyway. Is this true that Speex echo cancellation only performs well in narrowband mode !? I've been using 100 ms as the default tail length. I don't know what the ideal tail length would be. I have tried shorter and longer tails but it hasn't made any difference. Does

Hi I've been debugging and troubleshooting echo cancellation myself recently and I have made some observations. First of all playback and recording must be synchronized. There cannot be any clock drift between the microphone signal and the speaker (echo) signal. This has been said many times in the mailing list, but I will repeat it anyway. You have to first make sure that this is not your

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Jean-Marc Valin < jean-marc.valin at usherbrooke.ca> wrote: > OK, here's what happens. There is indeed a small difference between > beta3 and rc1, but the fundamental problem isn't there. I've attached > plots of the speaker signal (blue) alongside the mic signal (green). You > can see the delay is in the order of 1000 samples.

I would like to add AEC to my program. Since the nature of my program is such that its playback and recording are asynchronous. I have no idea whether the testecho.c example will work for me. Anyone here has experience with the AEC in async mode? YUN TAO

On 2010-03-16 14:22, Josh Gargus wrote: >> If more than one speaker receives the *same* signal, it doesn't >> matter the number of speakers. It only gets tricky when the >> speakers are playing slightly different signals (e.g. from a stereo >> song). > > Does "tricky" mean that the Speex AEC won't handle such situations > well? Or just that you

Greetings everyone, I was about to compare AEC performance between 1.1.12 and 1.2beta1 when I noticed something. If I configure (and compile) speex-1.1.12 with ./configure --enable-shared=no --enable-static=yes it compiles and works as expected: I can run a mic and speaker signal through testecho, it runs in a reasonable amount of time (about 23 secs for 3 minutes of audio) and I get back

I'll try to make some shorter samples later, but for now here are the ones I have tried with: http://www.surfnonstop.com/~bandit/speex/1.2beta1_AEC_garble/ The original recordings are in mic.raw and spk.raw. Jean-Marc Valin wrote: > You may have triggered an instability problem. Can you upload your files > somewhere so I can have a look at them? > > Jean-Marc > > Andras

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Jean-Marc Valin < jean-marc.valin at usherbrooke.ca> wrote: > Hi Benny, > > Can you send me your pair of testecho input files that work well with > beta3 and not with rc1? I'll have a look. > > Thanks for the help. The files are on their way now, the upload will take few more minutes to complete. In the mean time let me explain more

First of all, thank you for your input Tim. That is very helpful. I would love to hear from other people with experience of AEC and Speex. I guess I have to split my question into to parts now. 1. Is it a fact that using the windows multimedia API (wave audio) for audio capture and playback makes it impossible to do echo cancellation with Speex AEC or other EC method due to inprecise timing? I

Hi, my VoIP system uses speex with framesize = 160 samples(20 ms) at 8khz, sending and receiving paquets of 1600 samples(200 ms). When I receive a packet, I buffered it (I have also tried with speex_echo_playback) before sending to the speaker. When I capture from microphone, I fist remove DC offset (I saw in OPAL sources) and then I call speex_echo_cancellation for every one of the 10