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2015 Dec 10
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wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
On 12/10/2015 10:21 AM, James B. Byrne wrote:
> Since the import of what I was trying to convey has been lost, no
> doubt due to my poor choice of words, I will restate the obvious: If
> the bulk of the developers working on Fedora use laptops as their
> platform then, inevitably, Fedora will become in essence a laptop
> distribution and RHEL will follow. Talking about the server
2015 Dec 11
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wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
On 12/10/2015 07:21 AM, James B. Byrne wrote:
> If the bulk of the developers working on Fedora use laptops as their
> platform then, inevitably, Fedora will become in essence a laptop
> distribution and RHEL will follow.
Surely you're not suggesting that the code a developer writes is
dependent on the form factor of the computer on which they write it?
I'm sure that idea
2015 Dec 09
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wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
On 12/09/2015 11:45 AM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
> I'm sure it's *far* too much work for, say, the fedora development team to
> put out once a quarter a notice to upstream, and maybe CentOS, Scientific
> Linux, and whatever other main user groups to inform them of major
> changes, and see the feedback....
Someone just needs to spend the time to do it. So who is that someone?
2015 Dec 09
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wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
On Tue, December 8, 2015 11:05, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
>> I have been bitten by things done in Fedora that only have any use
>> on
>> a laptop and that should never have been allowed into a server
>> distribution. But I cannot see how I would have been aware of them
>> until they manifested themselves on equipment under my care. By
>> which
>
> ^
2015 Dec 07
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wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 09:03:50AM -0500, James B. Byrne wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 02:50:38PM -0500, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
> > For laptops, great. For anything else, not so much. For example,
> > it's supposed to be an *ENTERPRISE* o/s... why does it
> > automatically, without ever asking, install anything wifi? I'm
[...]
> The short answer: Because
2015 Dec 07
1
wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 09:03:50AM -0500, James B. Byrne wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 02:50:38PM -0500, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
>> > For laptops, great. For anything else, not so much. For example,
>> > it's supposed to be an *ENTERPRISE* o/s... why does it
>> > automatically, without ever asking, install anything wifi?
2015 Dec 07
1
wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 09:03:50AM -0500, James B. Byrne wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 02:50:38PM -0500, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
>> > For laptops, great. For anything else, not so much. For example,
>> > it's supposed to be an *ENTERPRISE* o/s... why does it
>> > automatically, without ever asking, install anything wifi?
2015 Dec 09
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wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
On 12/09/2015 09:37 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On 12/09/2015 08:54 AM, James B. Byrne wrote:
>> So, the implication of your suggestion, if I understand it aright, is
>> that I should audit all of the communication forums in use by Fedora
>> developers and then point out whenever any of the many dozens or
>> hundreds of contributors introduces something that in my opinion
2015 Dec 10
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wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
On Dec 9, 2015, at 11:55 AM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
>
> Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 01:05:15PM -0500, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
>>>>>
>>> So, you're saying that end users need to go poke their noses into the
>>> development process
>>
>> If you want to go out of your way to read it that way, it's hard to
2015 Dec 10
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Fedora change announcements [was Re: wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]]
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 04:56:34PM -0500, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
> Why not what was suggested, a summary every month or three? How about
> sending announcements?
Do people _want_ accepted Fedora change announcements posted to this
list? That's pretty easy to arrange if it really helps. I don't see a
big benefit over just following the annoucement list where they're
posted
2015 Dec 09
5
wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
On 12/09/2015 08:54 AM, James B. Byrne wrote:
> So, the implication of your suggestion, if I understand it aright, is
> that I should audit all of the communication forums in use by Fedora
> developers and then point out whenever any of the many dozens or
> hundreds of contributors introduces something that in my opinion may
> impact a server installation. ....
>
> Am I
2015 Dec 10
1
wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
The device I encountered it on had 10 NICS, at installation 6 of them got the new naming convention and four of them got the eth convention. I guess my question is "what's wrong with using the MAC address?" Yes, I know some things don't have MAC addresses, let the exceptional situation be the exception.
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2015 Dec 09
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wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 08:54:56AM -0500, James B. Byrne wrote:
> So, the implication of your suggestion, if I understand it aright, is
> that I should audit all of the communication forums in use by Fedora
> developers and then point out whenever any of the many dozens or
> hundreds of contributors introduces something that in my opinion may
> impact a server installation. To do
2015 Dec 09
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wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
Lamar Owen wrote:
> On 12/09/2015 08:54 AM, James B. Byrne wrote:
>> So, the implication of your suggestion, if I understand it aright, is
>> that I should audit all of the communication forums in use by Fedora
>> developers and then point out whenever any of the many dozens or
>> hundreds of contributors introduces something that in my opinion may
>> impact a
2015 Dec 09
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wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 11:54:57AM -0500, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
> Matthew Miller wrote:
> > Working with your employer to fix the "will not allow Fedora into the
> > premises" part seems like a good start.
> <snip>
> Why? Fedora is a development, rapid change distro. I just bugged one of my
Because of the context of this conversation. We can't have
2015 Dec 09
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wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 01:05:15PM -0500, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
> >> Why? Fedora is a development, rapid change distro. I just bugged one of
> > Because of the context of this conversation. We can't have user
> > feedback and involvement without user feedback and involvement.
> So, you're saying that end users need to go poke their noses into the
>
2015 Dec 10
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wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
On 12/10/2015 1:56 PM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
> As a lesser example, I just*adore* the new ethernet names - NOT. Breaks
> scripts, makes it all more difficult, not to mention*so* much easier to
> guess, when you've debugging a box and your organization has hardware from
> many OEMs. What was wrong with eth0, or even em1?
when you have multiple adapters, perhaps different
2015 Dec 10
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wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
On 12/10/2015 3:05 PM, Leroy Tennison wrote:
> You think this is irritating, what about when you're trying to replicate the network configuration to failover hardware...
IMHO, active/standby failover hardware should have exact identical
configurations down to firmware revisions, so I'm not sure what the
issue is.
--
john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz
2015 Dec 10
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wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
On Dec 10, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Leroy Tennison <leroy at datavoiceint.com> wrote:
> There is a freedesktop.org web page about why they did this - it has to do with mobile devices and plug-and-play networking. Take that page's statement about setting net.ifnames=0 cautiously, I found it was the exact opposite.
To be honest, I found that this change better suited servers, which often
2015 Dec 11
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wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]
Gordon Messmer wrote:
> I think it's likely that, instead, you believe that you are
> representative of all of the people who do your job, and that features
> which you do not need are therefore not needed by others. That logic is
> quite normal, but completely wrong.
On the other hand, it would be relatively easy to determine
the number of CentOS users, or CentOS machines, in