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Dear All, I am in the somewhat unfortunate position of having to reproduce the results previously obtained from (non-metric?) MDS on a "kinship" matrix using Statistica. A kinship matrix measures affinity between groups, and has its maximum values on the diagonal. Apparently, starting with a nxn kinship matrix, all it was needed to do was to feed it to Statistica flagging that the

I sent a query to R-Help about the availability of nonmetric multidimensional scaling (MDS) algorithms in R. I would like to thank Tony Rossini, Jonathan Baron, Sundar Dorai-Raj, and Brian Ripley for helpful replies. The gist of the replies is that isoMDS in the MASS library provides Kruskal's method for nonmetric MDS, sammon in the MASS library provides Sammon's nonlinear mapping method

Hi all, I'm trying to perform an MDS of some data that I have. When I use cmdscale everything is fine and I get some interesting results however, the tends to be low. What I wnat to do is compare this with the Non-Metric MDS using isoMDS or sammon. However, when I try using these I get the following message. Error in isoMDS(x.dist) : zero or negative distance between objects 2 and 4

Hi, I just encountered what I thought was strange behavior in MDS. However, it turned out that the mistake was mine. The lesson learned from my mistake is that one should plot on a square pane when plotting results of an MDS. Not doing so can be very misleading. Follow the example of an equilateral triangle below to see what I mean. I hope this helps others to avoid this kind of headache.

Hi again Sorry, in looking again at sammon and isoMDS I see that they seem to do exactly what I want, except that they are non-metric, which means, as I understand it, that they relate the rank orders of the variables rather than the actual distances. Could I use these non-metric MDS packages even if my distances are metric? Thanks Karen -- Karen Kotschy Centre for Water in the Environment

Hi, I am looking for the best multidimensional configuration for my data (47*47 distance matrix). I ve tried classical metric (cmdscale) and non metric MDS (isoMDS, nmds) but it is now difficult to choose the best solution because of the uncertainties in the definitions of the "stress" function. So, same problem, several questions : 1. Statistical consideration : With

Hi, I need math function which is used in: isoMDS, Sammon and metaMDS method. Anybody know where I may find it? Any manual or webside? I would be very happy Thanks a lot ! -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/math-function-MDS-method-tp1008294p1008294.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Hi all, I'm running a multidimensional scaling model on data that are first transformed into a similarity matrix using the program daisy in the cluster package. If I already provide the similarity matrix, the plotting routine will give me the variable names on the plot itself. But, it seems that when I use the daisy program to create the similarity matrix, I can't get the program

Hello everyone, I'm working with R 2.4.1 on a PC running with XP. Trying to run isoMDS as follows: Gquad.mat <- Gquads[4:10] # extracts only the metric data variables Gquad.dist <- dist(Gquad.mat) Gquad.mds <- isoMDS(Gquad.dist) plot(Gquad.mds$points, type = "n") text(Gquad.mds$points, labels = as.character(Gquads$Quadname), cex = .5) The data.frame

Dear All, I am not familar with R. I want to use PCA (principal components analysis) and MDS (multidimensional scaling). Can someone tell me which R package I should use for PCA and MDS? I appreciate your help in advance. Ray

i know cmdscale and isoMDS inR can do classical and non-metric MDS.but i want to konw if there is packages can carry on "individual differences scaling" and "multidimensional analysis og preference"?both method are important one,but i can not find any clue on how to do it using R. anyone can help? thank you!

If tbl is an object of class 'dist', you can do this: a <- sammon(tbl, k=3) But you can't do this: b <- isoMDS(tbl, k=3) Wouldn't it be sensible to have identical interfaces to sammon() and isoMDS() ? I think all that would be needed is to change this: isoMDS <- function(d, y=cmdscale(d, 2), maxit=50, trace=TRUE) { ...into this: isoMDS <-

Dear useRs, last week I asked you about a problem related to isoMDS. It turned out that in my case isoMDS was trapped. Nonetheless, I still have some problems with other data sets. Therefore I would like to know if anyone here has experience with how well isoMDS performs in comparison to other non-metric MDS routines, like Minissa. I have the feeling that for large data sets with a high

Hi; I am working with the similarity matrix below and I would like to plot a two-dimensional MDS solution such as each point in the plot has a label. This is what I did: data <- read.table('c:/multivariate/mds/colour.txt',header=FALSE) similarity <- as.dist(data) distance <- 1-similarity result.nmds <- nmds(distance) plot(result.nmds) (nmds and plot.nmds as defined at

Hi, I'm trying to do a non-metric multidimensional scaling using isoMDS. However, I have some '0' distances in my data, and I'm not sure how to deal with them. I'd rather not drop rows from the original data, as I am comparing several datasets (morphology and molecular data) for the same individuals, and it's interesting to see how much morphological variation can be

Dear all, I'm completely new to R and at first I must say that it is a great program! But I have a problem with the function isoMDS from the MASS package. I have this code which I load with source() from a file: x <- c(163.59514923926784, 150.01448475257115, ...... {here are some more values}) x.sort <- sort(x) x.dist <- dist(x.sort) library(MASS) x.mds <- isoMDS(x.dist)

Hi, I am trying to create 3 mds plots: one with axis 1 vs axis 2, one with axis 2 vs axis 3, and one with axis 1 vs axis 3. When inputting my code, I only end up with one diagram and when inputting mdsg.mds$dims, the program returns 2 for 2 dimensions. How can I create the other two plots? Any help would be greatly appreciated, Calla Carbone The table I use is number of each taxa on each

A student of mine wants to use R to do some nonmetric multidimensional scaling. According to the R FAQ, there's a package called pcurve that computes multidimensional scaling solutions, but I was not able to locate it the contrib page (I am a Windows user with R version 1.4.1). Can anyone tell me whether it is possible to do nonmetric multidimensional scaling with R, and if so, how? John

Dear List, I'm trying to interpret the results of the Kruskal's Non-metric Multidimensional Scaling algorithm (isoMDS, MASS package). The 'goodness of fit' is reported as "The final stress achieved (in percent)". What does this mean exactly? I've tried to google for an answer but I've not come up with a definitive answer. Regards, Dieter -- Dieter Vanderelst

Dear R-list members, I need an help with the Multidimensional Scaling analysis (MDS). So far I used the cmdscale() command in R, but I did not get the perceptual map I would love to see, and I would like to know if it is possible to get it using R, and if yes how. I also had a look to the functions isoMDS() and sammoc() but with no luck. I summarize the experiment I performed, and I would ask you