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This is my previous conversation with Colin Perkins at IETF regarding audio/vorbis. For interested parties. Last two paragraphs are the most interesting ones. Linus -----Vidarebefordrat meddelande----- From: Colin Perkins <csp@isi.edu> To: Linus Walleij <triad@df.lth.se> Subject: Re: Regarding non-streaming Ogg Date: 20 Jun 2001 16:17:34 -0400 --> Linus Walleij writes:

Forwarding a conversation with a company that provides a management tool for transcoding Vorbis files to MP3 when communicating with the Nomad Jukeboxes from Creative. Good initiative, and probably sounds OK too, but would be even better with FLAC, so I'll ask about it. Linus ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Re: Vorbis question From:

And this is what the application/ogg MIME descriptor is supposed to look like. Same request for comments here... Linus Walleij --------- MIME media type name: application MIME subtype name: ogg Required parameters: none Optional parameters: none Encoding Considerations: The OggSQUISH data is binary data, and must be encoded for non-binary transport; the Base64

The transport type application/ogg may now be used in applications. The IANA has assigned it in their namespace, so start adding it at will. See mail below. Linus ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:23:47 -0800 From: IANA <iana@iana.org> To: triad@df.lth.se Cc: Allison Mankin <mankin@psg.com>, Scott Bradner <sob@harvard.edu> Subject: RFC-to-be:

just for the record -- I think you mean video/theora when you mention vorbis+VP3. Vp3 is becoming Theora. Tarkin is another video codec project at Xiph. As for this whole MIME type issue, can someone enlighten me as to how this problem is addressed with Quicktime, Microsoft, and RealNetworks plug-ins today? Also, does an MPEG4 tag specify which audio codec is used? thanks - dan

This is the first draft of the audio/vorbis media registration form to be handled to the IANA. PLEASE comment extensively, even minor spelling mistakes etc are to be stamped out of this I hope. A media type for application/ogg (or should it be application/oggsquish?) will be created separately. I would be very happy if someone could supply the 4-letter filetype code used by MacIntosh .ogg files.

There has been talks on the User list about registering atleast one MIME type with the IETF for .ogg files. I am familiar with the procedures for this and will start doing it right now unless someone urgently wants me to stop. A discussion concerned wether audio/ogg or application/ogg should be registered, I will most definately register audio/ogg for Ogg Vorbis, and in the future video/ogg may

After much bureucracy in the IETF hierarchies and sort of chaos-like organization, it seems I have got the matter so far that a four-week last call will be issued so that application/ogg finally becomes a standard. Don't jump of joy just yet, but I have feelings that it actually may happen now. :-) The "last call" is not yet issued! (They started discussing adding this MIME-type in

Hi, I'm interested in helping out with the Vorbis and Tarkin projects (in my already limited time!). I don't have an extensive background in all of the mathematics involved, but it looks like my mathematics from undergrad Physics is good enough to get a grasp on it. In the past few days I've started doing some reading on the mathematical basics. As part of my reading, I found

For all the curious: http://www.vorbis.com/~jack/tarkin-experimental.tar.gz ome instructions: tar xzvf tarkin-experimental.tar.gz cd tarkin make ./tarkin 95 ./tarkinplayer output.tark You'll need SDL and SDL-devel if you don't already have them. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this

For all the curious: http://www.vorbis.com/~jack/tarkin-experimental.tar.gz ome instructions: tar xzvf tarkin-experimental.tar.gz cd tarkin make ./tarkin 95 ./tarkinplayer output.tark You'll need SDL and SDL-devel if you don't already have them. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this

Dear David, I hope it's ok to forward your email to the developer lists. I have not seen a comprehensive scheme for MIME type naming and file extensions for ogg files yet - please anybody put me in the picture if there is. However, I have seen application/x-ogg used for ogg-vorbis files, which is according to MIME type registration rules an unregistered and experimental MIME type (see

Dear David, I hope it's ok to forward your email to the developer lists. I have not seen a comprehensive scheme for MIME type naming and file extensions for ogg files yet - please anybody put me in the picture if there is. However, I have seen application/x-ogg used for ogg-vorbis files, which is according to MIME type registration rules an unregistered and experimental MIME type (see

Dear David, I hope it's ok to forward your email to the developer lists. I have not seen a comprehensive scheme for MIME type naming and file extensions for ogg files yet - please anybody put me in the picture if there is. However, I have seen application/x-ogg used for ogg-vorbis files, which is according to MIME type registration rules an unregistered and experimental MIME type (see

Thanks, Dan, for understanding what I meant with that sentence and clarifying it. I was indeed thinking of "video/theora" as MIME type to signify a theora & vorbis a/v-stream. If "Theora" is not the right name for this integrated stream, please come up with another one that is readable - I strongly dislike "oggvth". Silvia. -----Original Message----- From: Dan

> From: David Wheeler [mailto:dwheeler@ida.org] ... > > The #1 use of a MIME type is to launch an application to process > the data. If the MIME type doesn't include information on the > container format, then the application won't know what to do with > the result. You might as well ask, how does an application know what to do when it's launched from your

This may be interesting to some. I recently discovered AllCast.com which has developed a p2p streaming solution. Unfortunately they decided to use WMA due to it's video capability but hopefully they could be presuaded to switch to Vorbis later when Tarkin is available. For audio though, it appears a good way to reduce bandwidth requirements at the broadcasting end and potentially

Hello, I have in the past few days played a bit with libogg. My goal is to learn enough of it to try wrapping current tarkin codecs into an ogg file, with vorbis sound eventually. I did work on a small program which allows you to easyly (de)multiplex Ogg files in a way which seems to conform to the docs. You can do things like: oggmux in1.ogg in2.ogg in3.ogg - mux3.ogg oggmux mux3.ogg -

I sent a little mail some time ago asking if there was going to be an ogg pic-format, and you replied that PNG, MNG and JNG is good enough (sorry for this late answer btw).. But, consider this: The ogg video-format (tarkin ? where do you get these names from anyway ? :) ) needs a way to compress its frames. Are you going to use MNG for that ? :) .. If you had an ogg pic format, that format could

Hi everybody, this is an update on the developed Ogg IETF standard documents and their status. All of these documents are in the process of discussion and have not yet been accepted as standards. <p>The following Internet-Drafts (I-Ds) have been prepared for standardisation and submitted to the IETF: 1) an I-D requesting to register "application/ogg" as a mime-type written by