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piggyback like mp3pro. It's a good enough technique for low bitrate, but not exactly 'general purpose'. It also says the approach is patent pending. So much for Open. [If it's patent pending and trying to appeal to open source folks, why such a vague technical description that sounds like it was written by the Home Shopping Network? ;-] Monty --- >8 ---- List archives:

On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 12:01:11PM -0400, John Covici wrote: > Hi. I am having a strange problem where the source times out during > anicecast2 stream -- I was using mp3pro at 32khz and even some other > speeds. I have set the source timeout for 1 minute, but it still > times out or says connection reset by peer. Icecast2 isn't designed to use mp3pro, its a different format

Sort of off topic, but I was wondering about how the SBR data factors into an mp3pro bitrate. If you encode a "64kbps" mp3pro stream, I'm guessing that 64kbps would include the SBR data. So, when played in a normal MP3 player, would a 64kbps mp3pro stream actually sound worse than a 64kbps MP3 stream? Tony Arcieri --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg

Hi nice Vorbis people, I've been following the work on Ogg and Vorbis for some time, and I've been very impressed with the work so far. I'd like to introduce myself and volunteer for some work as it's needed. I'm very excited about the prospect of developing open-source audio coding technologies that are not encumbered by patents, and think this has the potential to be very

But the source computer runs the other os, so I don't have too much choice as to what I can do and the timeout problems remain with mp3 as well. The persons involved don't want to use .ogg for now so that is also not an option. Is this an icecast bug, or some other problem? on Thursday 08/14/2003 Arc(arc@indymedia.org) wrote > On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 12:01:11PM -0400, John Covici

Important (imho)! I found this site in the internet: http://www.plusv.org/ PlusV is an audio enhancement algorithm similar to SRB of Mp3Pro, but 1) better than SBR 2) Fully open-source It seems to me wise to include PlusV into new versions of Ogg Vorbis. P.S. what about some long-awaited features in Ogg Vorbis? 1) ability to turn off the frequency filter in the encoder (especially for high

Hello, I forgot in my last reply that my DWT implementation can be speed up, for example I'm doing for now: for (;_X1<_E_;_X1++,_RES+=2) //dilatation { _RES[0]=_X1[0]<<3; _RES[1]=(_X1[1]+_X1[0])<<2; } then for (;_X2<_E_;_X2++,_RES+=2) //details { _RES[0]-=(_X2[1]+_X2[0])<<1; _RES[1]+=6*_X2[1]-_X2[2]-_X2[0];

I suppose it could be possible to patent something and let the patent expire so that it is registered at the patent office but not enforcable. No one else could patent it then. I get curious about the RLE patent. I heard Someone has a patent on run length encoding and I wonder how long they have had it because I remember RLE code running on a sinclair spectrum in the 80's before the whole

Guten Tag Geoff Shang, Am Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 um 13:22 schrieben Sie: GS> Carsten Henkel wrote: >> if i reencode a stream that is in mp3pro (streamed with sam) to a >> lower bitrate by using ices/lame, is the reencoded stream mp3 or mp3pro GS> MP3. LAME does not do MP3Pro. And in fact, the stream that is reencoded GS> will also only be a reencode of the

Carsten Henkel wrote: > hi, > if i reencode a stream that is in mp3pro (streamed with sam) to a > lower bitrate by using ices/lame, is the reencoded stream mp3 or mp3pro > ? MP3. LAME does not do MP3Pro. And in fact, the stream that is reencoded will also only be a reencode of the MP3-compatible layer of the MP3Pro stream, as Ices does not know how to decode MP3Pro streams

Salve, the German IT-Magazin (#1) www.heise.de/ct has made an audio-codec test online. The reader were asked to download 2 x 7 audiofiles, listen to them and rank them (As I wrote before) http://www.xiph.org/archives/vorbis/200208/0185.html The 7 files have been Wave, MP3, MP3Pro, AAC, Ogg Vorbis, WMA, RealAudio in 64kBit/s and 128kBit/s for a stereo sample of 3 genres: pop, jazz, classic. The

Reading Monty's message, I better re-post this one :-). In another thread the following was said: > It might help if you also mentioned that the sound quality of Ogg is > significantly better than MP3 (assuming that you use regular MP3, not > MP3Pro), especially at 32kbps. Speaking of which, would there be anything to stop Vorbis, maybe not v1 but in the future, to use similar

>> Do you (or the ogg vorbis community) understand how SBR works? There is >> info on http://www.codingtechnologies.de/technology/sbr.htm >> bnut I am guessing this infop is not enough to explain the technology. Robert Voigt: >I haven't heard about SBR before. After reading that webpage I can say the >following: [ . . . ] I don't think SBR will give an

(hello all, this is my first writing. so please bear with me if I'm wrong anywhere.) orry to break too lately, but how is the RTP payload submission is going? could we see the new payload at March IETF? I agree that it would be fairy straightforward to make an RTP payload for ogg vorbis, assuming raw packets, AFAIK. using physical bitstream is, in this case, not adequate by the reasons in

> > So > > it's closer to Dolby AC-X than to VQ. Unfortunately, I'm not sure that it's > > not patended by Dolby. > > Could you be more specific? More than anything else, we need to know more > about the patent waters we're navigating. > > Monty As Dolby AC-X is using enveloppe of the sound since several years, and as it seems that Dolby was

At 13:52 6/9/2001 -0600, you wrote: >So uh, you think it's worth more for mp3, than the actual music >involved? > >Come on. Hmm.. so what you're saying is that for under $2K I can get an unlimited distribution license from the recording industry? To burn, distribute, sell and market as much of their material as I like? Wow. Sign me up. >You think it would be nice if

> Take a look at: > > http://swpat.ffii.org/patents/effects/voip/index.en.html Well, outside of the Speex link, that page seems to be pretty old... > Is speex realy petant free or does patent free only means that > is is not patent by the speex authors? Who have checked that > speex doesn't violates patents others? I don't use IP here, > because most patents are

hi, if i reencode a stream that is in mp3pro (streamed with sam) to a lower bitrate by using ices/lame, is the reencoded stream mp3 or mp3pro ? thank you -- Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen Carsten Henkel mailto:carsten@chatlabel.de Eine gl?ckliche Frau braucht 4 Tiere: einen Jaguar in der Garage, einen Nerz im Schrank, einen Hengst im Bett und einen Esel, der alles

Just in case my quotation causeed misunderstnaing... Forget about what I quoted before. Probably, by CBR, Monty meant ABR since CBR is stupidly patented and this is the reason why Vorbis has no CBR option. If you know this, it cannot be a problem but I see there is a question asking what is ABR in the mailing list. >On Thu 28 Jun 2001, 23:27:41 PDT, Monty (xiphmont@xiph.org)Wrote: >then

FYI, looks like more people need to let SonicBLUE know that OGG support is an important factor in there purchasing decisions. Dax ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Paul Crossley <pcross@sonicblue.com> To: 'Dax Kelson' <dax@gurulabs.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:21:31 -0800 Subject: RE: OGG support in Rio Riot? Hi Dax, We have no current plans to support OGG,