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2001 Mar 25
0
bitrtate peeling and lossless compression (UU2509787)
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2001 Jun 15
2
Difficult sample for vorbis w/ audible artifacts
I came across an interesting test sample the other day while trying to
compress some of my music and trying out different encoders. You can grab
the sample in question from here:
http://www.animus-facticius.org
drone_clip.zip is a 9 second clip of the track where the artifact is most
apparent, drone_short.pac is a 1 minute clip of track. The sample is from
the song "Drone" from
2008 Dec 13
2
Bitrate peeling
Hi all,
I recently started to study the Ogg Vorbis codec and found an interesting
feature called bitrate peeling [1]. Do you know where I can find more
information on this topic? E.g., how is the actual peeling being
implemented, what are the performance results in terms of resulting quality,
what are the requirements for bitrate peeling (can it be applied to any ogg
vorbis stream), ...?
Also,
2003 Sep 26
0
Peeling (was RE: streaming)
> From: Beni Cherniavsky [mailto:cben@users.sf.net]
> Sent: 26 September 2003 10:35
> To: vorbis@xiph.org
> Subject: Re: [vorbis] streaming
>
> - Vorbis is designed to allow "peeling": if you truncate packets, you
> still get a legal Vorbis stream but with lower quality. This should
> allow very effecient streaming of multiple bitrates from the same
>
2000 Oct 29
2
Question Re: Bitrate Peeling
Monty,
You helped me out quite a bit the other day, but I just wanted to make sure
I understand something. The "ideal" way to do bit rate peeling is to have
the encoder set the file up to be conducive to the peeling process, and the
streamer would be the device that actually does the peeling. Am I correct
in assuming, then, that the decoder would think that the file it is
2002 Nov 15
1
Peeling Specification
After reading the recent thread
[http://www.xiph.org/archives/vorbis/200211/0057.html] on the vorbis
list about bitrate peeling, I was wondering if it would be possible for
xiph.org to post a specification, outline, flowchart, or a drawing on a
napkin of what the basic operations of bit peeling would entail. If
there was some sort of starting point, then it may be a little more
inviting for
2005 Oct 21
2
Ogg Vorbis bitrate peeling bounty on Launchpad
Hello all,
Just a quick note to let you all know that I have placed a bounty on
Lauchpad to get bitrate peeling added to Vorbis. It is a feature that I
think we would all like to have, and would probably pay something to
get, but it hasn't been done.
My request to you is to add to the bounty. I have seeded it with US$20,
which is not enough to motivate a developer to get it done, but I am a
2004 Sep 10
1
[Flac-users] FLAC/LPAC/Bzip2 better for archival?
Hi. I am a student with limited funds and storage space on my linux box. So I am trying to decide what audio compression scheme to use for my collection of audio tapes (recordings of one speaker, preaching in an church auditorium, recorded with low-grade mics and tape decks) converted to digital audio (16bit, stereo, WAV, 44100Hz). Is FLAC, LPAC, or a standard data compression format better for
2002 Jul 11
1
RC4/1.0 and peeling
first, congrats to monty and the whole crew for getting
this close to 1.0. it's a monumental achievement reflecting
a huge amount of hard work -- kudos!
econd, i know the bitrate peeling feature has been pushed
back until after 1.0 is out. but i'm wondering -- will oggs
created with a 1.0 encoder be peelable with an as-yet-unreleased
utility, or do "peelable oggs" have to be
2007 Aug 20
8
[sorta offtopic] Removing bad bytes from filenames
I'm moving my Ogg Vorbis collection off of my Linux server and onto my
laptop. I plan on using iTunes to play my collection, but, that's a
whole 'nother can of worms.
I'm having trouble moving my complete collection over because dbPowerAmp
(an application I used to love) made some dumb decisions about naming my
files. For example, in track/album/artist names that contained a
2001 May 23
2
bitrate peeling question
Hi:
A friend asked me a question that I was unable to answer, so I'm posting it
here.
Can files created by the beta4 encoder be peeled down when that becomes
available, or is the ability to encode peelable files also not implemented?
My friend wants to know if they should switch over now or hold off until
this becomes possible.
Geoff.
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2004 Jan 01
1
Proposal for Bitrate peeling.
Hi all,
First up, this is not a proposal on how to do it, but rather on how to
get it done.
In the latest thread it was mentioned that it was most likely that
either Monty or Segher would be the most likely people to implement
this code. It was also stated that this is not their priority at the
moment. I can only see two solutions to this problem:
1. Find someone else with the knowledge and
2001 Aug 20
0
Peeling vs Coupling
After reading the documentation on the different types of channel coupling
I began to wonder what effects this might have on bit peeling. Say for
instance an audio file is encoded at a rather high bit rate with channel
coupling type "X". Later on the same file is streamed, and is peeled down
to a much lower bit rate in the process. However at this lower bit rate,
channel coupling type
2002 Jan 03
0
Bitrate Peeling? (again)
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Hello vorbis,
Wasn't really answered in my first post about this subject
(although
people did convince me to do a debian/rules binary, which i've done
and am VERY impressed with RC3 (played a -q3 file to a mp3 dude
secretly, and he says "whoa! 112kbits! give me your new mp3
encoder"
(winamp3 doesn't show the changing
2005 May 12
1
Bitrate peeling on existing (older) streams ?
Hi all,
last time I have seen discussions here about alternative encoders, or
tuned versions of the encoder.
Last year (sept/oct) there had been the discussion if existing streams
will be peelable or if they have to be "modified" first to be peelable.
Now for my question:
Is it known allready if existing streams will be peelable or not ?
Or, with other words: Is it known if the /can/
2003 Feb 11
0
Congestion control and bitrate peeling for RTP
Hi all,
I'm looking into congestion control for Vorbis RTP and I'm wondering if
it's not too early to define a mechanism which would help bitrate
peeling.
The client can send a standard receiver report stating the interarrival
jitter and packets loss. Once a certain jitter/loss point is reached
the server peels off a pre-determined bitrate fraction from the stream,
eg 128k would
2004 Jan 02
1
A bitrate peeling attempt
Given all this talk of peeling lately, I thought I'd try out a method
I've been thinking about for a while now. It goes something like this:
* Peeling is achieved by dropping some of the residue.
* The encoder indicates how much of the residue to retain (e.g a number
of stages, 3 bits in the stream per packet, non-standard!).
* The decoder (peeler) copies the contents of packets except
2002 Jun 23
1
peeling as I understand it (was Re: When will quality increase be unnoticable?)
>> Is bit-peeling going to be real (or just a rumor forever)?
> Apparently the RC3 streams are capable of being bit peeled, however the
> tool to do so was looking likely to be quite complex. I believe the plan
> was to have RC4 produce streams that left better hints for the peeling
> tool, so as to make the tool simpler and faster, but I doubt we'll see it
> until
2004 Sep 28
2
Bitrate Peeling (no. really)
Hey,
Maybe you guys remember us, I'm from the Neuros forums. I've got to say,
having a player that supports Ogg Vorbis has really turned things around
for everybody. We're still struggling with higher bitrate Vorbis
streams, but that is only because of our terribly underpowered DSP.
Anyway, to the point of my email.
Recently the discussion of bitrate peeling has been floating
2001 Oct 22
0
Bit peeling(?) used in MPEG-2/SVCD Nero plugin?
Not vorbis-related, just I think I found a similar technique being used...
The description of the MPEG-2/SVCD plugin on the nero site says that it
can encode exacty to the size of the CD (to maximize quality given a size
restriction). It also says (in a separate point) that it uses two-pass
VBR compression.
>From that I guess they do something like encoding a bigger-than needed
file and then