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Hi, I am making good progress on understanding, documenting, and re-implementing VP3. I have found some more deadwood in the decoder code and I just wanted to verify that it really has no place: * Version 3.3 tables: There are 2 sets of VLCs: One for v3.1 and one for v3.3. The v3.1 set is always selected. Are the v3.3 tables in production, or will they ever be? * DC Search Points: VP3

Hi, I have been on a documentation kick recently. I finally updated my VP3 format document tonight: http://www.pcisys.net/~melanson/codecs/vp3-format.txt v0.2: October 9, 2003 - expanded section "Reversing the DC Prediction" - added Appendix B: Theora Differences Feel free to look it over and point out any glaring mistakes. I can't wait to see how much sense it makes to

Hi, So it took a little while to get here but VP3 through ffmpeg is finally starting to achieve viewable results. It partially works right now. Keyframes only. And monochrome. Oh, and the picture is upside down (something I did not realize about VP3 until I let it fly just now). Anyway, here is a picture of ffmpeg's VP3 decoder in action using xine:

Hi, Is there anything special I need to know about VP3's IDCT? I mean besides the fact that there are separate IDCTs to handle sparse coefficient matrices. Are the IDCT functions mathematically equivalent to any textbook IDCT functions? Thanks... -- -Mike Melanson --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To

Hi, Since a number of people are eager to try out the native VP3 decoder in xine, I have made a patch available, bz2-compressed: http://www.pcisys.net/~melanson/codecs/xine-vp3-decoder-patch.bz2 To work with this patch: 1) Get the latest xine-lib from CVS. Visit this page for more details: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=9655 The module name is xine-lib, but you will also need

I hope this list is small enough for not beeing banned when introducing oneself. So... Hi, I just subscribed to the theora-lists. I'm from the XVID project, so I know a deal about video and MPEG-4 in particular, but nothing about Vorbis/Theora etc., That's why I'm here, because I'm interested in patent-free alternatives. I guess there is no documentation of the current status

Hi, Keep up the good work! The file sizes of Theora's output is amazing! I have just joined the list, and would like to contribute to the

Hi, Check it out-- another update in the space of a week: http://home.pcisys.net/~melanson/codecs/vp3-format.txt v0.4: March 2, 2004 - renamed and expanded section "Initializing The Quantization Matrices" - outlined section "Reconstructing The Frame" - moved Theora Differences Appendix to its own section entitled "Theora Specification" - added Appendix:

Hi, Can anyone tell me the significant differences between VP30 and VP31 (or are you allowed to)? Are there different token and quantizer tables? Are there algorithmic differences? I have a VP30-encoded file that plays with the VP3 VfW DLL but not with the open source decoder. Thanks... -- -Mike Melanson --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project

./configure: line 524: syntax error near unexpected token `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(libtheora,0.0)' ./configure: line 524: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(libtheora,0.0)' I'm sure I'm doing something pro-stupid, but --- my setup works fine for ogg & vorbis. autoconf ver 2.13 automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p4 if that matters hey let's put tool version numbers into the README -dan

Hi, There seem to be 2 sets of block coding patterns in the VP3x/Theora algorithm. Based on the comments in the code, the first pattern is used if encoder version < 6 and the second pattern is used in encoder version >= 6. None of the code to support the second pattern is ever called. Is there an encoder with a version >= 6? The code in question is

Hello everybody, I'm a new member of this mailing-list. My name is Remi BEAUDOUIN, I'm student in an engeneering school in France (ENSEIRB, Bordeaux), major Data and Image Processing. I'm currently doing my last internship before graduating in Thales Airborne Systems. I'm working on video compression and I have to choose the best way to encode and to embed it on a DSP TMS320DM642

Hi, I have been working with VP3 for some time now. Dan Miller from On2 just told me about this list. A few months ago, I managed to get On2's VP3 source snapshot to compile under Linux, a feat that many have apparently attempted and quickly abandoned. I compiled a small console app and the results of the experiment are explained here:

Hello, I am a student who wants to study the VP3 encoding/decoding process in detail. I downloaded the source code from your site. I was wondering if there is any supporting document which provides details of the entire process - a complete VP3 standards document to aid in the understanding of the code. Any information will be welcome. Thanks Regards, Navneet --- >8 ---- List archives:

Hi, Let's play a little game. Forget all you know, or think you know. Without any context at all, what does the following pattern make you think of? <p> X -> X X -> X | ^ v | X <- X X <- X | ^ v | X X -> X X | ^ | ^ v | v | X -> X

Hi, Here is something that confused me greatly at first. In Huffman.h, the comment "35" sits above the definition of MAX_ENTROPY_TOKENS: // 35 #define MAX_ENTROPY_TOKENS (DCT_RUN_CATEGORY2 + 2) Yet, if you do math from all the preceding #defines (not easy given that each in a long chain of #defines is defined in terms of the previous #define), there are actually 32 tokens.

Hi, The VP3 source code supports various CPU-specific optimized instructions. I see references to MMX and XMM (SSE2). I also see references to WMT. What is WMT? Thanks... -- -Mike Melanson <p><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to

Hi, A few questions: Is libtheora strictly backward compatible with VP3? Can I set it up to shove raw VP3 data through and trust it to decode the same way as On2's open source code did, loop filters and all? Also, is libtheora just supposed to be a C-based reference implementation? I was looking through the code and noticed a distinct lack of any kind of optimizations. Naive tree-based

just added to the WIKI: * Ideas with some concensus after discussion on IRC, it was provisionally agreed (by those present at the time) that Theora should support arbitrary pixel sizes (presently it is limited to multiples of 16 both horizontally and vertically). It is felt that this can be achieved with minimal pain by adding four values to the page header, immediately following the present

I try to merge VP3's mmx decoder into theora. http://kyoto.cool.ne.jp/vp3/developers/theora-alpha3-MMXd-src.zip You can see the change by searching the keyword "_UsingMMX_" in all lib folder's file. From VP3???YO vp3@go8.enjoy.ne.jp