[Samba] How does AD/SMB clients authenticate servers?

Zombie Ryushu
2022-11-25T09:43:29Z

On 11/25/22 03:14, Michael Tokarev via samba wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Recently I learned about SPNs and its usage with AD and SMB network.
>
> In a nutshell, if there's a SPN (service principal name) stored in an
AD
> for a given server (service) name, the clients (at least windows) will
> check the server validity.? This means that it will not be (easily)
> possible to substitute that service with something else, - say, to
> impersonate the service.
>
> For example, I wont be able to set up a name on my personal computer in
> the network that will be the same as the name of a file server used
> in this network, and "redirect" (steal) traffic from the official
> server to my machine, returning, say, modified executables to hack
> into other users machines.
>
> As far as I can see, when contacting some name (say, as a file server),
> windows client checks for the presence of an SPN in the AD with the
> given name (eg, when contacting name "FS" as a file server, it
checks
> for FS/CIFS at DOMAIN.TLD principal in the AD, or something like this -
> the exact detail is not important by now).? If found (and such record
> is unique!), this SPN is used when contacting the server, and the
> client expects the server to prove it is him using kerberos.? So my
> "unauthorized" server will be detected easily (in order to
add/modify
> SPN records, one has to have administrative rights in the AD).
>
> But if an SPN is not found, (windows) clients does not try to verify
> the "validity" of the server, so any name for which SPN does not
exist
> can be used to access such server, and the server will not have to
> "prove its validity" for this name.? Including, for example,
accessing
> a server by its IP address (unless there's ip.add.re.ss/CIFS at DOMAIN
> SPN is registered, of course).
>
> Does it look correct?
>
> And does linux client (samba) uses SPNs to verify "server
validity"
> like this?
>
> (and it seems my setup with the same name to mean different things
> depending on the location based on overriding CNAMEs does not work
> for this reason: validity of such server can't be verified, and the
> clients can - in theory - be tricked to access wrong, malicious server
> instead of the right one, unless I'll do it some other way).
>
> Thanks,
>
> /mjt
>
Yes, Samba has for years, even before AD was possible on Samba to use
Kerberos to authenticate users and their machines. (Samba 3.x supported
an Enhanced form of NT4 Domain that could have an OpenLDAP Backend, A
Heimdal Kerberos realm, and a Samba Classic NT Domain all rolled into
one, with multiple Primary Domain Controllers. It's a little outside the
scope of your question.

 ?If you are asking if other services, such as Apache, DoveCot, and
OpenSSH can use Kerberos from Samba 4.x to authenticate a Domain user,
yes, they can. It provides a form of Single Sign on when this happens.