Re: Is this book dated?

Ginty
Wed, 07 Jul 2010 03:07:59 -0000

I agree the file browser side pane is nice.

If you like Vim and just want a side pane then go for Netbeans with
the Vim plugin:
http://jvi.sourceforge.net/

It works 100% like regular Vim, quite amazing how good it is actually.

On Jul 6, 9:37 pm, Angel Robert Marquez
<angel.marq...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> I don''t know man. I used to work with these two dev guys that
would debate
> constantly over cygwin and eclipse. Personally at the time (bout a year
ago)
> I used both for whatever worked best for my understanding at the time. I do
> find myself leaning towards the command line more these days. The only
> reason I like gEdit opposed to vim is because of the file browser side
pane.
> But, to each his own. I prefer IDEs like training wheels. They help me
> understand concepts more easily. The terminal with a semi transparent
> background is looking pretty slick and not very cluttered on F13. The only
> real problems I''m running into are compatibility issues and I
don''t think
> either the cl or the IDE would remedy those more favorably.
>
> i''ll check out rubymine. I like looking at different UI designs
for this
> stuff anyways and can use without marrying.
>
> danka!
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Ginty
<stephen.f.mcgi...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Sorry but the advice to "don''t use an IDE because Rails
doesn''t need
> > one" is as dated as this book.
>
> > Today''s IDEs give you significant advantages over a text
editor, to
> > name but a few:
>
> > Visual debugging.
> > No Rails configuration required, already understands the Rails
> > structure for easy navigation.
> > Integration with Rspec et al; run tests with a click, visual debug
> > again, etc.
> > Integration with Git; browse your changes, 1-click to diff, etc.
>
> > Netbeans is good I agree (plus has an awesome flawless Vim plugin),
> > but I now use RubyMine which is better (although the Vim plugin
> > blows), but it''s not free though.
>
> > On Jul 6, 7:16 pm, Marnen Laibow-Koser
<li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > Bb Serviss wrote:
> > > > I really liked "Simply Rails 2" by Patrick Lenz.
It''s the only rails
> > > > book where I went through all the code examples.
>
> > > I haven''t read that book, but based on all the technical
errors in
> > > another one of Patrick''s Rails books (Building Your Own
RoR Web
> > > Applications), I''d tend to steer well clear of any of
his Rails writing.
>
> > > > As far as an IDE goes - I like Netbeans. You can code with a
simple
> > > > editor but nothing beats the view Netbeans gives you.
>
> > > NetBeans is a great IDE, but I do not believe it offers any
advantage at
> > > all for Rails development (I use it for other stuff).  What do
you mean
> > > by "the view NetBeans gives you"?
>
> > > Best,
> > > --
> > > Marnen Laibow-Koserhttp://www.marnen.org
> > > mar...-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
>
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