RE: A Nightmare on Rails Street: Windows Lives!

Soulhuntre
2005-03-07T08:56:00Z

Heya :)

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> To: Rob Park; rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
> Subject: Re: [Rails] A Nightmare on Rails Street: Windows Lives!
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> Well, moron is a little harsh. He''s always easy to get along with.
> Maybe "misguided" would be a better choice of words. There is
already
> one convert in their IT department, but she hasn''t been able to
make
> any inroads either. They recently installed eight Windows 2003 servers
> and have nothing but trouble with them. Maybe he can be won over soon
> :-)

Maybe your client needs new IT people (excepting yourself!).

There shouldn''t be any real problem with 2003 server boxes if the folks
setting them up are minimally competent. MS does a lot wrong in life, but
sometimes the do it right. 2K3 is rock solid, fast, secure and trivial to
administer.

It seems most of the problems with Rails and Windows have nothing to do with
rails OR windows - it has to do with bad or incomplete ports of the tools
rails depends on (or seems to).

A decent ISAPI module of Ruby and / or decent IIS FastCGI support should
really be a bit higher on someones priority list if they want to make real
inroads into the Windows camps. Get them used to using open source... then
wean them away from the rest if you want.

I work with a number of clients who had IT folks try and force them to move
from a perfectly stable IIS / SQL Server environment to Apache simply
because their language of choice had bad IIS support - and in the end they
rarely come away thinking IIS is bad - they come away going "that opens
source sutff is cute, but even the guy who was pushing it couldn''t get
it to
work".

If completed several client projects and started a few others since I
learned about rails - each one I would have been happy to use rails on but I
am not going to move away from a completely useful combination (Win2K3 /
IIS) to Apache (thus sacraficing ASP.NET and a whoel host of other goodies)
just to support Ruby.

Soulhuntre
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