[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet vs Oracle Enterprise Manager (cm pack)?

dkoleary
Mon, 30 Sep 2013 23:50:24 -0000

Hey;

>>We use both as they solve different problems.

Thank you very much for responding!  All of the searching I''ve been
doing
has slowly lead me to that same conclusion, but I don''t have any solid
facts or sites to back it up.

My client also has a lot of oracle stuff.  I''m sure they could start
using
rhel w/o issue, but it''s almost exclusively OEL at this point.  They
say
they have the license for OEM 12c; but, so far, I''ve not been able to
confirm the license for the CM pack - which, if I''m reading it right,
is
*not* cheap and does not come with the base OEM.

I''ve read about the mcollective but haven''t had a chance to
try it yet.
 Good to know that there''s a performance issue running both of puppet
and
OEM simultaneously.

As for the environment: as I mentioned, it''s mostly OEL but they do
have a
smattering of rhel ver 4 and 5.  Most of the systems are now vmware guests;
but, there are a few physicals - mostly the rhel4 systems, still running.

>>What are you trying to solve?

That, right there, is my core problem.  I haven''t yet been able to
hammer
that down; but, I believe that the other admin (the one pushing for OEM)
and I are trying to solve different problems.  She''s looking for
something
that''ll automate patching + some other nebulous things on which I
haven''t
gotten a clear answer.  I''m looking for a tool through which I can nail
down system configurations - ensuring that they''re kept consistent
across
all environments - and help automate configuration change distributions.
 I''m a UNIX admin but also a security guy at heart (CISSP/CISA).

So, short version: I need to figure out what my client''s trying to
solve
(not as easy an investigation as one would hope) and, from there, I can
figure out whether or not OEM will be sufficient.

At your convenience, any chance you could expand on the concept that they
solve different problems?

Thanks again, very much, for your response.  It''s nice getting at least
a
partial confirmation that what I was suspecting is accurate.

Doug O"Leary