Solr

Daniel Miller
Thu, 03 Jan 2019 19:52:11 -0000

On 1/2/2019 12:59 AM, M. Balridge wrote:
> So, without rancour or antipathy, I ask the entire list: has ANYONE gotten
a
> Dovecot/solr-fts-plugin setup to work that provides as a BASELINE, all of
the
> following functionality:
>
> 1) The ability to search for a string within any of the structured fields
> (from/subject) that returns correct results?

Yes.


>
> 2) The ability to search for any string within the BODY of emails,
including
> the MIME attachment boundaries?

Yes.


>
> 3) The ability to do "ranging" searches for structures within
emails that
> decompose to "dates" or other simple-numeric data?

Dunno - I don't think I've needed that and I'm not sure how to do
it.?
My mail clients are Thunderbird and AquaMail (on Android). If you'll
give me either the desired Thunderbird steps or telnet-based IMAP
command I'm happy to test.


>
> OPTIONALLY, and this is probably way outside of the scope of the above,
> despite the fact that it's listed as a "selling point" of
SOLR versus other
> full text search engines:
>
> 4) The ability to do searches against any attachments that are able to be
> post-processed and hyper-indexed by SOLR+Tika?

Haven't tried.


> SOLR seems to have "brand cachet", so presumably it actually
works (for somebody).

It works - just sometimes needs more effort to setup than it should.


> Dovecot has not a little "brand cachet", and for me, I have
innate faith and
> trust in Timo and his software.

I think we're all in agreement here.


> But please, level with us faithful users.  Does this morass of Java B.S.
> actually work, and if not, please just deprecate and remove this moribund
> software, and stop trying to bury the only FTS plugin many of us HAVE
actually
> gotten to work.  (Pretty please?)
>
> I respect that Messr. Moreau has made an earnest effort to get this JAVA
B.S.
> to actually work, as I have.
>
> He persevered where I'd given up. He's vocal about it, and now
I'm chiming in
> that this ornate collection of switchblades only cuts those who try to use
them.

Short answer - it actually works.? Longer answer - I've gone through a
hate/love/hate/like relationship with Solr myself.? The transition from
v3 to v4 was a major headache - and I gave up for a while.? But versions
6 & 7 have been pretty good for me.? I'm neither a Dovecot nor a Solr
developer - just enough of a fiddler to get them working to fulfill my
own needs.

If my unreliable memory serves I believe the Dovecot fts-solr plugin
hasn't needed to change much (I recall one significant change required
when Solr changed it's protocol - I think an XML/JSON thing).? So having
a stable interface let's Timo & Co. forget about on-going FTS
development and continue focusing on things not provided by other
tools.? Hopefully they'll revisit SIS...

I recall reading something about the Lucene library (which Squat & Solr
are based on) and again my memory is the C version(s) weren't getting
maintained as well as might be desired.? I think having the Solr/Lucene
team focusing on Java development was another point of consideration for
Dovecot's squat - but I could be totally off here.

Based on the errors reported by Joan I believe that system's problems
are due to configuration - either Solr, Dovecot, or both.? They don't
sound like Java related issues (which are a *major* pain to deal
with!).? I've provided a copy of what is a working configuration *for
me*.? I'm happy to continue helping as best I can - and if Joan, you, or
anyone else would like my aid I'll do my best.? If you're crazy
I-mean-trusting enough to have me SSH or remote view to your system I'm
willing to take a look.? I've had enough people help me over the years
for various packages that I'd like to pay it forward where I can.

--
Daniel

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