IP drop list

Jochen Bern
Wed, 04 Mar 2015 23:12:02 -0000

On 03/04/2015 09:45 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
> On 03/04/2015 03:37 PM, Oliver Welter wrote:
>> Am 04.03.2015 um 21:03 schrieb Dave McGuire:
>>> Am 04.03.2015 um 20:12 schrieb Michael Orlitzky:
>>>> Please add [DNSBL] support to iptables instead of Dovecot.
It's a waste of
>>>> effort to code it into every application that listens on the
network.

(FWIW, I agree that DNSBL hooks have no business being in kernel space.
A standard *userland* DNSBL client communicating with iptables and
similar by means of libnetfilter_queue would sound quite promising,
however ...)

>>>    Would you care to integrate it into IOS on my Cisco as well?
[...]
>> so there should be some
>> sort of netfilter available which you can put in front of your
listening
>> ports.
>
>   There is.  But I already have a firewall, running on bulletproof
> hardware that doesn't depend on spinning disks.  I don't want to
add
> ANOTHER firewall when I already have a perfectly good one.  Besides, my
> mail server is built for...serving mail.  Not being a firewall.

You're contradicting yourself here. If it's "a perfectly good"
firewall,
why would you care whether an additional feature (might or) might not
get added to it? And if you don't trust those disks to keep spinning,
why do you allow them to hold your e-mail?

For what it's worth, the host firewall functionality *already is* in the
kernel, and kernel memory gets locked into RAM. Apart from bootup and
local logging, firewalling may well just keep running after the HDD died
in mid-operation (yes, I've seen (iptables-based) firewalls do that; the
customers typically complain that the webUI or CLI turned unresponsive).
Good luck getting the co-located dovecot to live up to that level of
resilience. :-}

Regards,
								J. Bern
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