CentOS - Jul 2015 - Top posting or not/ no snipping : was rsyslog.conf

I was looking at the manpage for rsyslog.conf, primarily because I need to
filter my manager's new fedora 22 logs coming to our loghost, because of
the bug that I forwarded (if it gets through).

At any rate, I am surprised: under selectors, I see that " The keywords
error, warn and panic  are  deprecated  and should not be used anymore."

Huh?

If I only want warn or more severe, how am I supposed to filter - write a
much more elaborate RE?

      mark

Looking at the same manpage, it seems that these selectors are not really being
removed, just renamed.  The old names are being deprecated.

Instead of		Use
==========		==warn			warning
err			error
panic			emerg



Best regards

Dave Windsor
AdP/TEF7  

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Subject: [CentOS] rsyslog.conf

I was looking at the manpage for rsyslog.conf, primarily because I need to
filter my manager's new fedora 22 logs coming to our loghost, because of
the bug that I forwarded (if it gets through).

At any rate, I am surprised: under selectors, I see that " The keywords
error, warn and panic  are  deprecated  and should not be used anymore."

Huh?

If I only want warn or more severe, how am I supposed to filter - write a
much more elaborate RE?

      mark

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Sorry for the top post, Outlook defaults strike again.....

Best regards

Dave Windsor
AdP/TEF7

Windsor Dave (AdP/TEF7) wrote:
> Looking at the same manpage, it seems that these selectors are not really
> being removed, just renamed.  The old names are being deprecated.
>
> Instead of		Use
> ==========		==> warn			warning
> err			error
> panic			emerg
>
>
Thanks. I didn't see that.

Unfortunately, it still didn't solve the problem (my manager's
newly-upgraded fedora from 20->22, and according to the bugzilla bug, the
systemd developers want *all* logs, and they're dumping *everything* from
auditd, all successes by root jobs, cron, everything - fine, I suppose,
for someone debugging systemd....)

       mark
>
> Best regards
>
> Dave Windsor
> AdP/TEF7
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: centos-bounces at centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On
> Behalf Of m.roth at 5-cent.us
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:07 AM
> To: CentOS
> Subject: [CentOS] rsyslog.conf
>
> I was looking at the manpage for rsyslog.conf, primarily because I need to
> filter my manager's new fedora 22 logs coming to our loghost, because
of
> the bug that I forwarded (if it gets through).
>
> At any rate, I am surprised: under selectors, I see that " The
keywords
> error, warn and panic  are  deprecated  and should not be used
anymore."
>
> Huh?
>
> If I only want warn or more severe, how am I supposed to filter - write a
> much more elaborate RE?
>
>       mark
>
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Am 22.07.2015 um 17:41 schrieb Windsor Dave (AdP/TEF7) <Dave.Windsor at
us.bosch.com>:
> Sorry for the top post, Outlook defaults strike again.....
Outlook forces you to write above ? :-)

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LF

On 07/30/2015 10:24 AM, Wes James wrote:
> What?s even more irritating to me than top posting is when someone replies
to a message that takes two  page scrolls to get to the bottom then there?s only
a few words that are unrelated to the actual message!  What?s worse, top posting
or no snipping?
>
No snipping with bottom posting is worse than any top posting, IMHO.  It 
wastes space and time and is equally bad in digests.  But you're not 
likely to get the worst offenders to change.

Lamar Owen wrote:
> On 07/30/2015 10:24 AM, Wes James wrote:
>> What?s even more irritating to me than top posting is when someone
>> replies to a message that takes two  page scrolls to get to the bottom
>> then there?s only a few words that are unrelated to the actual message!
>> What?s worse, top posting or no snipping?
>>
> No snipping with bottom posting is worse than any top posting, IMHO.  It
> wastes space and time and is equally bad in digests.  But you're not
> likely to get the worst offenders to change.
I don't think worse, but it's *extremely* annoying. I will also note
that
I see that *all* the bloody time on the selinux list, long, long posts,
and a two line cmt at the end.

     mark

On 7/30/2015 8:13 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> No snipping with bottom posting is worse than any top posting, IMHO. 
> It wastes space and time and is equally bad in digests.  But you're 
> not likely to get the worst offenders to change.
totally concur but as long as people are going to use cell phones as 
mobile computer substitutes, and considering how painful text editing on 
a touchscreen is, I doubt we'll get people to change.

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