CentOS - Mar 2005 - Installing CentOS-4 in VMWare Workstation 4.5.2

I''m trying to install CentOS-4 in VMWare Workstation 4.5.2 build-8848
for testing.

The first message I receive is that "No hard drives have been found.
You probably need to manually choose device drivers for the installation
to succeed.  Would you like to select drivers now?"

I select "Yes", "Add Device", "LSI Logic Fusion MPT
SCSI Driver
(mptscsih)" from the available options.  This is the same driver
autodetected by CentOS-3.

When I get to the "Disk Partitioning Setup" step I receive an error
message titled "No Drives Found" with the message "An error has
occurred
- no valid devices were found on which to create new file systems.
Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem."

Has anyone been able to get CentOS-4 running in VMWare?

Thanks,
- James

Sure... 4.5.2-8848 and 5.0-12544 pre-release without any problem.
If you compiled and loaded without problem the kernel''s modules (vmmon,
vmnet, ...) I guess it''s only a problem of configuration... whi scsi
driver ? use a virtual drive... it''s this the first time you use vmware
or not ?

Bruno

James Allman ha scritto:
>I''m trying to install CentOS-4 in VMWare Workstation 4.5.2
build-8848
>for testing.
>
>The first message I receive is that "No hard drives have been found.
>You probably need to manually choose device drivers for the installation
>to succeed.  Would you like to select drivers now?"
>
>I select "Yes", "Add Device", "LSI Logic Fusion MPT
SCSI Driver
>(mptscsih)" from the available options.  This is the same driver
>autodetected by CentOS-3.
>
>When I get to the "Disk Partitioning Setup" step I receive an
error
>message titled "No Drives Found" with the message "An error
has occurred
>- no valid devices were found on which to create new file systems.
>Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem."
>
>Has anyone been able to get CentOS-4 running in VMWare?
>
>Thanks,
>- James
>
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>CentOS@caosity.org
>http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
>
>
>
>

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I tried yesterday (using SATA) I had the same issues. I think Installing
without VMWARE should work on the same machine.

J

Bruno Depero wrote:
| Sure... 4.5.2-8848 and 5.0-12544 pre-release without any problem.
| If you compiled and loaded without problem the kernel''s modules
(vmmon,
| vmnet, ...) I guess it''s only a problem of configuration... whi scsi
| driver ? use a virtual drive... it''s this the first time you use
vmware
| or not ?
|
| Bruno
|
| James Allman ha scritto:
|
|> I''m trying to install CentOS-4 in VMWare Workstation 4.5.2
build-8848
|> for testing.
|>
|> The first message I receive is that "No hard drives have been found.
|> You probably need to manually choose device drivers for the installation
|> to succeed.  Would you like to select drivers now?"
|>
|> I select "Yes", "Add Device", "LSI Logic Fusion
MPT SCSI Driver
|> (mptscsih)" from the available options.  This is the same driver
|> autodetected by CentOS-3.
|>
|> When I get to the "Disk Partitioning Setup" step I receive an
error
|> message titled "No Drives Found" with the message "An error
has occurred
|> - no valid devices were found on which to create new file systems.
|> Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem."
|>
|> Has anyone been able to get CentOS-4 running in VMWare?
|>
|> Thanks,
|> - James
|>
|> _______________________________________________
|> CentOS mailing list
|> CentOS@caosity.org
|> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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|>
|>
|
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On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 09:30 -0600, James Allman wrote:
> Has anyone been able to get CentOS-4 running in VMWare?
I managed to get it working fine. In the virtual machine setup you have
to change the SCSI controller from BusLogic to LSI as CentOS 4 doesn''t
have the BT-958 driver.

--
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazquez@ivazquez.net>
http://fedora.ivazquez.net/
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I''m using a sata hd too but no problem at all... are you using vmware
with a raw partition ?

Bruno

John Moylan ha scritto:
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> I tried yesterday (using SATA) I had the same issues. I think Installing
> without VMWARE should work on the same machine.
>
> J

Bruno,

I think you misunderstood my message.  This has nothing to do with the
VMWare host kernel drivers.

I''m trying to install CentOS-4 into a virtual machine in VMWare
Workstation running on a Fedora Core 3 host.

I am not trying to install VMWare Workstation itself on a physical
machine running CentOS-4.

The default virtual machine configuration for a Linux virtual machine is
to emulate a SCSI controller and a SCSI hard drive.

I have an identical virtual machine running CentOS-3 with no problems.

- James

On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 16:36 +0100, Bruno Depero wrote:
> Sure... 4.5.2-8848 and 5.0-12544 pre-release without any problem.
> If you compiled and loaded without problem the kernel''s modules
(vmmon,
> vmnet, ...) I guess it''s only a problem of configuration... whi
scsi
> driver ? use a virtual drive... it''s this the first time you use
vmware
> or not ?
>
> Bruno
>
> James Allman ha scritto:
>
> >I''m trying to install CentOS-4 in VMWare Workstation 4.5.2
build-8848
> >for testing.
> >
> >The first message I receive is that "No hard drives have been
found.
> >You probably need to manually choose device drivers for the
installation
> >to succeed.  Would you like to select drivers now?"
> >
> >I select "Yes", "Add Device", "LSI Logic
Fusion MPT SCSI Driver
> >(mptscsih)" from the available options.  This is the same driver
> >autodetected by CentOS-3.
> >
> >When I get to the "Disk Partitioning Setup" step I receive an
error
> >message titled "No Drives Found" with the message "An
error has occurred
> >- no valid devices were found on which to create new file systems.
> >Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem."
> >
> >Has anyone been able to get CentOS-4 running in VMWare?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >- James
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >CentOS mailing list
> >CentOS@caosity.org
> >http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, James Allman wrote:
> Has anyone been able to get CentOS-4 running in VMWare?
------ On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Bart Schaefer wrote: ------

To: centos@caosity.org
Subject: CentOS 4 (RC1) and VMWare

I successfully installed CentOS 4 (RC1) on a VMWare 4.5.2 virtual
workstation last night.  When creating the new virtual machine, I told
the VMWare wizard that I''d be installing RHEL3.  I used the VMWare
console to point the virtual CDROM drive at each of the downloaded ISO
images as needed.

The "time remaining" feedback while Anaconda ran was wildly
inaccurate,
but the whole process required only about 45 minutes (the host machine is
a 2.8GHz P4 with 1.5GB RAM, I allocated 512MB RAM to the guest).  At one
point (during installing the pci utilities RPM) the installer seemed to be
hung, but I suspended and resumed the guest workstation and that woke
everything up again.

On the first reboot, the setup wizard asked me to install the disk that
was labeled Extras.  I don''t know which of the 5 ISO images that is,
and
couldn''t find that info on the CentOS web site, so I skipped that step.
However, that screen still makes reference to other disks that may have
been obtained from Red Hat -- probably needs to be cleaned up.

Also the wizard wanted me to register my RHN subscription, which I simply
told it not to do.

I then logged in and attempted to install the VMWare tools.  This
(expectedly) did not go entirely smoothly.  The app launched from the CDROM
icon on the desktop was unable to mount the tools virtual disk, and
"mount" from a shell or non-X11 virtual console didn''t work
either.  I had
to select "Install ..." from the VMWare menu, then reboot in single
user
mode to avoid X11 startup, then mount the disk.

After running the installer perl script, most of the tools work, but for
X11 in particular I had to manually revert the /usr/X11R6/bin/X symlink to
point back at Xorg, and restore the /etc/XF86Config file from
/etc/X11R6/xorg.conf -- I then merged in the VMWare screen definitions
from the XF86Config file written by the tools installer.  Because I''m
not
using the vmware X server, the mouse does not move seamlessly on and off
the vmware guest window; you have to manually grab/ungrab the pointer.
Otherwise, though, xorg-x11 works just fine.

Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> I managed to get it working fine. In the virtual machine setup you have
> to change the SCSI controller from BusLogic to LSI as CentOS 4
doesn''t
> have the BT-958 driver.
Ah, that''s a detail I should have mentioned in my RC1 summary ...
except
that I didn''t have to change anything; VMWare defaulted to the LSI
driver,
so I didn''t think to make note of it.

Ignacio,

That was exactly the problem.

I located the steps to change the emulated SCSI device in VMWare
Knowledge Base article number 1216 entitled "Changing the Type of SCSI
Controller Used in a VMware Workstation Virtual Machine".

Thanks,
- James

On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 10:46 -0500, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 09:30 -0600, James Allman wrote:
> > Has anyone been able to get CentOS-4 running in VMWare?
>
> I managed to get it working fine. In the virtual machine setup you have
> to change the SCSI controller from BusLogic to LSI as CentOS 4
doesn''t
> have the BT-958 driver.
>
> _______________________________________________
> CentOS mailing list
> CentOS@caosity.org
> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Bart Schaefer wrote:
>On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, James Allman wrote:
>
>
>
>>Has anyone been able to get CentOS-4 running in VMWare?
>>
>>
>
>------ On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Bart Schaefer wrote: ------
>
>To: centos@caosity.org
>Subject: CentOS 4 (RC1) and VMWare
>
>I successfully installed CentOS 4 (RC1) on a VMWare 4.5.2 virtual
>workstation last night.  When creating the new virtual machine, I told
>the VMWare wizard that I''d be installing RHEL3.  I used the VMWare
>console to point the virtual CDROM drive at each of the downloaded ISO
>images as needed.
>
>
<snip>

I''ve been trying to get CentOS 4 fully running on a VMWare 5.0 beta. 
It
loads fine, but I can''t get the VMWare tools to load without the screen
turning black.  It''s on VMware''s "known issues"
page, but I hope they
get it fixed soon.  If they do, I''ll try to scrape together the cash
they want to buy the thing...

if you folks are using vmware to run linux inside of linux try xen instead
- it''s much faster.

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
> Bart Schaefer wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, James Allman wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Has anyone been able to get CentOS-4 running in VMWare?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >------ On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Bart Schaefer wrote: ------
> >
> >To: centos@caosity.org
> >Subject: CentOS 4 (RC1) and VMWare
> >
> >I successfully installed CentOS 4 (RC1) on a VMWare 4.5.2 virtual
> >workstation last night.  When creating the new virtual machine, I told
> >the VMWare wizard that I''d be installing RHEL3.  I used the
VMWare
> >console to point the virtual CDROM drive at each of the downloaded ISO
> >images as needed.
> >
> >
> <snip>
>
> I''ve been trying to get CentOS 4 fully running on a VMWare 5.0
beta.  It
> loads fine, but I can''t get the VMWare tools to load without the
screen
> turning black.  It''s on VMware''s "known issues"
page, but I hope they
> get it fixed soon.  If they do, I''ll try to scrape together the
cash
> they want to buy the thing...
> _______________________________________________
> CentOS mailing list
> CentOS@caosity.org
> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
>

Maciej ?enczykowski wrote:
>if you folks are using vmware to run linux inside of linux try xen instead
>- it''s much faster.
>
>
>
<snip>

Nope, using VMWare to run multiple linux instances on my WinXP machine.
I hate to say this, but so far WinXP handles the HyperThreading of my P4
better than I''ve found linux smp kernels to do. I haven''t had
the chance
to try the 2.6 kernel in CentOS yet, but there it is.

HT on 2.6 runs fine (gives about 15-20% boost)

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
> Maciej ?enczykowski wrote:
>
> >if you folks are using vmware to run linux inside of linux try xen
instead
> >- it''s much faster.
> >
> >
> >
> <snip>
>
> Nope, using VMWare to run multiple linux instances on my WinXP machine.
> I hate to say this, but so far WinXP handles the HyperThreading of my P4
> better than I''ve found linux smp kernels to do. I haven''t
had the chance
> to try the 2.6 kernel in CentOS yet, but there it is.
> _______________________________________________
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>

> From: "Benjamin J. Weiss" <benjamin@birdvet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Centos] Installing CentOS-4 in VMWare Workstation 4.5.2
> I hate to say this, but so far WinXP handles the
> HyperThreading of my P4
> better than I''ve found linux smp kernels to do. I haven''t
had
> the chance
> to try the 2.6 kernel in CentOS yet, but there it is.
So what exactly does "handles the HyperThreading of my P4 better than
I''ve
found linux smp kernels to do" mean?

The gains brought by HyperThreading for most workloads are so marginal that
I''d suggest switching off in the BIOS if you''re using a 2.4
based kernel.

Thanks,
Charlie

Charles Lee wrote:
>>From: "Benjamin J. Weiss" <benjamin@birdvet.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Centos] Installing CentOS-4 in VMWare Workstation 4.5.2
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>I hate to say this, but so far WinXP handles the
>>HyperThreading of my P4
>>better than I''ve found linux smp kernels to do. I
haven''t had
>>the chance
>>to try the 2.6 kernel in CentOS yet, but there it is.
>>
>>
>
>So what exactly does "handles the HyperThreading of my P4 better than
I''ve
>found linux smp kernels to do" mean?
>
>The gains brought by HyperThreading for most workloads are so marginal that
>I''d suggest switching off in the BIOS if you''re using a
2.4 based kernel.
>
>
Well, when I had a process that ate a bunch of CPU on my P4 under the
2.4 kernel in HT mode, sometimes I''d get a kernel panic or other crash
in RHEL 3.  For instance, if I was trying to run VMWare in smp mode
(running a Windows guest system on the RHEL 3 host system), sometimes
the vm would crash, twice the whole system died.  If I ran the VMWare in
uni-processor kernel, it would run fine though it would eat resources.

I haven''t had that happen in XP yet, when running the RHEL/CentOS guest
operating systems on the XP host OS.  I haven''t had time to try it on
CentOS 4 as the host OS yet to see how the 2.6 kernel handles the load.

Ben

I''ll just note here, that HT really pushes the proc, it might just be
flaky hardware - especially if it''s overclocked.  I can run my computer
for ours on end without problems overclocked 20% and everything is fine -
but fire up two mersenne prime threads and it starts giving bad
answers (a single one is ok and two work ok when overclocked to 15%).  So
even though for me the problem occurs at full throttle with 20%
overclocking, your hardware might be worse and it might occur at full
throttle (the kind which only the extra performance boost from HT can
bring out) even without it being overclocked.

Of course this is only 1 possibility...  Maybe HT support on 2.4 is just
plain buggy... don''t know, never used HT on 2.4.

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
> Charles Lee wrote:
>
> >>From: "Benjamin J. Weiss" <benjamin@birdvet.org>
> >>Subject: Re: [Centos] Installing CentOS-4 in VMWare Workstation
4.5.2
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >>I hate to say this, but so far WinXP handles the
> >>HyperThreading of my P4
> >>better than I''ve found linux smp kernels to do. I
haven''t had
> >>the chance
> >>to try the 2.6 kernel in CentOS yet, but there it is.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >So what exactly does "handles the HyperThreading of my P4 better
than I''ve
> >found linux smp kernels to do" mean?
> >
> >The gains brought by HyperThreading for most workloads are so marginal
that
> >I''d suggest switching off in the BIOS if you''re using
a 2.4 based kernel.
> >
> >
> Well, when I had a process that ate a bunch of CPU on my P4 under the
> 2.4 kernel in HT mode, sometimes I''d get a kernel panic or other
crash
> in RHEL 3.  For instance, if I was trying to run VMWare in smp mode
> (running a Windows guest system on the RHEL 3 host system), sometimes
> the vm would crash, twice the whole system died.  If I ran the VMWare in
> uni-processor kernel, it would run fine though it would eat resources.
>
> I haven''t had that happen in XP yet, when running the RHEL/CentOS
guest
> operating systems on the XP host OS.  I haven''t had time to try it
on
> CentOS 4 as the host OS yet to see how the 2.6 kernel handles the load.
>
> Ben
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>

Possible, though I don''t think likely in my case.

I''m not at home, so I can''t give you the exact model, but I
bought a
pretty powerful MSI motherboard for the CPU, got the dual RAM, a serious
aftermarket CPU fan, several case fans, etc. I don''t overclock at all
because I''ve always been worried about over heating or that
I''d get the
settings wrong and fry something. I''ve also run memtest86 for 24 hours,
though I don''t think it does the HT thing. I''m not a hardware
guru, I
just try and (barely) keep up with what''s going on so that I can have
decent performance.

I know that anecdotal evidence isn''t, but I''ve heard from at
least one
other source on the redhat list back when I was trying this that he''d
had problems with smp kernels on HT processors as well, so I dunno.
We''re running RHEL AS 2.1 on two Xeon HT processors and they
don''t seem
to have any probs. go figure.

Ben
Maciej ?enczykowski wrote:
>I''ll just note here, that HT really pushes the proc, it might just
be
>flaky hardware - especially if it''s overclocked.  I can run my
computer
>for ours on end without problems overclocked 20% and everything is fine -
>but fire up two mersenne prime threads and it starts giving bad
>answers (a single one is ok and two work ok when overclocked to 15%).  So
>even though for me the problem occurs at full throttle with 20%
>overclocking, your hardware might be worse and it might occur at full
>throttle (the kind which only the extra performance boost from HT can
>bring out) even without it being overclocked.
>
>Of course this is only 1 possibility...  Maybe HT support on 2.4 is just
>plain buggy... don''t know, never used HT on 2.4.
>
>On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
>
>
>
>>Well, when I had a process that ate a bunch of CPU on my P4 under the
>>2.4 kernel in HT mode, sometimes I''d get a kernel panic or
other crash
>>in RHEL 3.  For instance, if I was trying to run VMWare in smp mode
>>(running a Windows guest system on the RHEL 3 host system), sometimes
>>the vm would crash, twice the whole system died.  If I ran the VMWare in
>>uni-processor kernel, it would run fine though it would eat resources.
>>
>>I haven''t had that happen in XP yet, when running the
RHEL/CentOS guest
>>operating systems on the XP host OS.  I haven''t had time to try
it on
>>CentOS 4 as the host OS yet to see how the 2.6 kernel handles the load.
>>
>>Ben
>>_______________________________________________
>>
>>

The problems I''ve seen are normally a case of flakey memory.

Cheers,

Matt.


On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 08:14:26 -0600, Benjamin J. Weiss
<benjamin@birdvet.org> wrote:
> Possible, though I don''t think likely in my case.
>
> I''m not at home, so I can''t give you the exact model, but
I bought a
> pretty powerful MSI motherboard for the CPU, got the dual RAM, a serious
> aftermarket CPU fan, several case fans, etc. I don''t overclock at
all
> because I''ve always been worried about over heating or that
I''d get the
> settings wrong and fry something. I''ve also run memtest86 for 24
hours,
> though I don''t think it does the HT thing. I''m not a
hardware guru, I
> just try and (barely) keep up with what''s going on so that I can
have
> decent performance.
>
> I know that anecdotal evidence isn''t, but I''ve heard from
at least one
> other source on the redhat list back when I was trying this that
he''d
> had problems with smp kernels on HT processors as well, so I dunno.
> We''re running RHEL AS 2.1 on two Xeon HT processors and they
don''t seem
> to have any probs. go figure.
>
> Ben
> Maciej ?enczykowski wrote:
>
> >I''ll just note here, that HT really pushes the proc, it might
just be
> >flaky hardware - especially if it''s overclocked.  I can run my
computer
> >for ours on end without problems overclocked 20% and everything is fine
-
> >but fire up two mersenne prime threads and it starts giving bad
> >answers (a single one is ok and two work ok when overclocked to 15%). 
So
> >even though for me the problem occurs at full throttle with 20%
> >overclocking, your hardware might be worse and it might occur at full
> >throttle (the kind which only the extra performance boost from HT can
> >bring out) even without it being overclocked.
> >
> >Of course this is only 1 possibility...  Maybe HT support on 2.4 is
just
> >plain buggy... don''t know, never used HT on 2.4.
> >
> >On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Well, when I had a process that ate a bunch of CPU on my P4 under
the
> >>2.4 kernel in HT mode, sometimes I''d get a kernel panic or
other crash
> >>in RHEL 3.  For instance, if I was trying to run VMWare in smp mode
> >>(running a Windows guest system on the RHEL 3 host system),
sometimes
> >>the vm would crash, twice the whole system died.  If I ran the
VMWare in
> >>uni-processor kernel, it would run fine though it would eat
resources.
> >>
> >>I haven''t had that happen in XP yet, when running the
RHEL/CentOS guest
> >>operating systems on the XP host OS.  I haven''t had time
to try it on
> >>CentOS 4 as the host OS yet to see how the 2.6 kernel handles the
load.
> >>
> >>Ben
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>
> >>
>
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