Crossword answers have to be drop-in replacements for the clue in a
sentence. Hence replacing
"She writes in C and R, say."
with
"She codes"
would work, but "She coder" would not.
(If one interpreted C and R as the names of third party candidates for
office, then "She votes" would work,
but the across words made "codes" a more reasonable answer.)
I was impressed that they expected the typical NYT reader to know that R
was a programming language.
-Bill
On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 11:40?AM <avi.e.gross at gmail.com> wrote:
> Since this is a discussion about a specific crossword puzzle the right
> answer has to fit with any words coming in from the other direction or it
> gets cross.
>
> I thought the clue hinted it started with C and ended with R and that the
> languages were chosen for no reason other than that they helped make a
> clue. It would otherwise be equally valid to choose COBOL and RUST. This
> has nothing specific about R, or C, for that matter. Anyone who writes code
> for computers in any language can be called a CODER.
>
> But since CODES and CODER and many other words like PRINT may make sense,
> it still can be necessary to have it fit the crossword puzzle. Since it
> mentioned R and not it's cousin S, I think CODER is more likely the
answer
> than CODES.
>
> Not that it changes our lives in the slightest way. I suspect people who
> are dedicated cruciverbalists need not know anything about the C and R
> languages or even programming in general. They are supposed to figure out
> it is an ODE between C and R.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R-help <r-help-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of Olivier
Crouzet
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2024 9:51 AM
> To: r-help at r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] [off-topic] crossword
>
> Thank you all for the helpful and enlightening comments. One question
> though, isn't "say" a synonym in oral forms of american
english for
> "for example"? Which would translate to:
>
> > Writes in C or R, [for example].
>
> which would involve that C and R are possible examples of the usage
> contexts considered here in which someone would "write"?
>
> This would then make perfect sense to me for the proposed answer:
> "codes".
>
> Yours.
> Olivier.
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2024
> 08:02:32 +0000 CALUM POLWART <polc1410 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Well to complicate things, I don't think RULES is the answer.
> >
> > This is a cryptic crossword clue. They usually contain the answer
> > twice (well... Cryptically!!)
> >
> > Writes in C or R, say.
> >
> > I think the answer is CODER
> >
> > If you look up the definition of say in the dictionary one option is:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1. give instructions to or direct somebody to do something with
> > authority (verb)
> >
> >
> > That's the simple part of the clue. (Notice the comma cryptic
clues
> > have two parts giving the "same" answer)
> >
> > The more complex part I think is that and 'ode' (a poem that
is
> > written like it is said or something) is written in between C and R
> > giving C ODE R,
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
> > Very happy to be corrected...
> >
> >
> > (Oh and as a third part a coder writes in C or R... I hope the
> > JavaScript kids are listening ;-) )
> >
> > On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, 04:26 Ebert,Timothy Aaron, <tebert at
ufl.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I do not understand the question and I do not understand the
answer.
> > > Possibly one confounds the other.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: R-help <r-help-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of
Erin
> > > Hodgess Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2024 11:56 AM
> > > To: Bill Dunlap <williamwdunlap at gmail.com>
> > > Cc: r-help at R-project.org
> > > Subject: Re: [R] [off-topic] crossword
> > >
> > > [External Email]
> > >
> > > RULES!
> > >
> > >
> > > Erin Hodgess, PhD
> > > mailto: erinm.hodgess at gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 9:42?AM Bill Dunlap
> > > <williamwdunlap at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The New York Times crossword this morning had the clue (51
down, 5
> > > > letters) "Writes in C or R, say".
> > > >
> > > > -Bill
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