samba - Jul 2024 - new DC via clone..

On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 11:55:20 +0200
Joachim Lindenberg via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> Hello Rowland,
> your dislike of clone was not shared by Andrew in
> https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2020-December/233699.html. Can
> you please put asside your dislike and help to figure out, which
> service is defunct, as probably the same issue of not knowing which
> service does not start could happen even with a new install? Thanks,
> Joachim
> 
It isn't that I dislike cloning, it is that I do not see the point.

From your link, Andrew said:

I would ensure the Samba directories are clean.

you must re-join after the clone

So what you are really 'cloning' is the base OS, I personally think it
would be easier to demote the 'bad' DC, create a new one and then join
that to the domain.

I haven't a clue which service is defunct on your DC and having never
cloned a DC, I wouldn't know where to start.

Rowland

Hello Rowland,
there can be a lot more services than just the OS and Samba-AD-DC. As a must
have you have to configure bind, and in my specific case I have also a pi-hole
and stubby running with docker in order to provide complete DNS services on the
DCs.
Cloning is definitely a huge saving of time than starting from scratch.
Everybody except probably Samba today uses clones where possible.
Whether I cloned or installed, and I really suspect if I install from scratch I
might run into the same issue: when Samba-AD-DC spawns ist services, it
obviously doesn?t mark which process is what service nor can I identify the
failure from syslog. Imho this is clearly to be fixed. Anything that fails
should provide a trace of the failure.
Thanks,
Joachim

> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: samba <samba-bounces at lists.samba.org> Im Auftrag von Rowland
> Penny via samba
> Gesendet: Montag, 22. Juli 2024 12:07
> An: samba at lists.samba.org
> Cc: Rowland Penny <rpenny at samba.org>
> Betreff: Re: [Samba] new DC via clone..
> 
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 11:55:20 +0200
> Joachim Lindenberg via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hello Rowland,
> > your dislike of clone was not shared by Andrew in
> > https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2020-December/233699.html. Can
> > you please put asside your dislike and help to figure out, which
> > service is defunct, as probably the same issue of not knowing which
> > service does not start could happen even with a new install? Thanks,
> > Joachim
> >
> 
> It isn't that I dislike cloning, it is that I do not see the point.
> 
> From your link, Andrew said:
> 
> I would ensure the Samba directories are clean.
> 
> you must re-join after the clone
> 
> So what you are really 'cloning' is the base OS, I personally think
it would be
> easier to demote the 'bad' DC, create a new one and then join that
to the
> domain.
> 
> I haven't a clue which service is defunct on your DC and having never
cloned a
> DC, I wouldn't know where to start.
> 
> Rowland
> 
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