[+cc Rajat; I still don't know what "shared memory with a hypervisor
in a confidential guest" means, but now we're talking about hardened
drivers and allow lists, which Rajat is interested in]
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 10:20:44AM -0700, Andi Kleen
wrote:>
> > I see. Hmm. It's a bit of a random thing to do it at the map time
> > though. E.g. DMA is all handled transparently behind the DMA API.
> > Hardening is much more than just replacing map with map_shared
> > and I suspect what you will end up with is basically
> > vendors replacing map with map shared to make things work
> > for their users and washing their hands.
>
> That concept exists too. There is a separate allow list for the drivers. So
> just adding shared to a driver is not enough, until it's also added to
the
> allowlist
>
> Users can of course chose to disable the allowlist, but they need to
> understand the security implications.
>
> > I would say an explicit flag in the driver that says
"hardened"
> > and refusing to init a non hardened one would be better.
>
> We have that too (that's the device filtering)
>
> But the problem is that device filtering just stops the probe functions,
not
> the initcalls, and lot of legacy drivers do MMIO interactions before going
> into probe. In some cases it's unavoidable because of the device
doesn't
> have a separate enumeration mechanism it needs some kind of probing to even
> check for its existence And since we don't want to change all of them
it's
> far safer to make the ioremap opt-in.
>
>
> -Andi
>