CentOS - Dec 2020 - What are the differences between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream?

On 12/15/20 9:20 AM, Kevin K wrote:
> As a bystander who just the other day saw this, no.  It doesn't appear
that
> it will be a bleeding edge kernel.  Just builds of the next kernel expected
> to be in the next 8.X release.  So you are getting updated features
> earlier, but maybe before all the known issues are resolved to a state
> ready to be released in the main RH build.
>
> For my work use of Red Hat, this all doesn't matter.  We license and
pay
> for many copies of RHEL.  It is only for home use that I've
historically
> used CentOS.  And even then I can get a personal license of RHEL.
I totally agree with that. I think that most of RedHat's success is 
because of 'open' Linux in general, and especially Centos in the last 
decade or however long it has been around.

What large companies don't seem to understand (except for a few) is that 
what is used in the workplace is what people that run that stuff know, 
and most of those are people that started with that as HS kids, or they 
have a degree in something unrelated, often an "online/make up degree.? 
That might sound mean/bad, but that is the work force you have, that is 
what they use, so that is what companies/organizations/institutions will 
use, always been like that, will be like that for the foreseeable future.

Most of what runs companies/institutions? "IT stuff" have a few
machines
at home, I know enough sysadmins that have the previous model Dell 
servers, or the model before that, some EOL Cisco equipment, that is 
what they know very well to use, so that is what companies will be using 
too, including their choice of OS and software.

RHEL and Centos disappearing migh be a problem in the short term, a year 
or 2/3/4, but hey,? it only takes one hardware life cycle before a new 
badge of HS kids and college drop outs figured out what to use next (for 
free).

When was the last time a large company (think IBM, Sun, Novell Netware, 
Oracle) had a great idea to create or take over an OS, or a community 
only ending up in a situation that only almost killed them. (Yeah MS, 
but they figured out that giving it away for next to nothing for 
residential/educational use is actually securing their market share in 
commercial/government/Education etc etc etc.)

The only times something became really popular, and useful for "the 
industry" is when it is was for free for personal use (or was included 
with the hardware, there are/were countless examples), because that is 
what the people working in it, programmers, sysadmins etc., do, use the 
free stuff ..?? take it to work, get promotions and a raises for their 
good ideas. In fact, that is how Linux/Redhat became a success to begin 
with.

Personal licenses, sure,? but what IT guy is going to get 4-5 $500 a pop 
a year licenses just because it is the same as at work? (And...? what 
about all the online forums etc? that are free to use) Redhat might 
think about giving "those" away for free..? BUT most large companies, 
and for sure government, does not allow their employees to accept 
'gifts'? for more then a few ($10-15) a year.? So that won't fly
either.

my 2 cts,


Ron
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 9:29 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <
> teoenming.dec2020 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Good day from Singapore,
>>
>> What are the differences between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream?
>>
>> At the moment, I only know that CentOS 8 support will end on 31
December
>> 2021 while Red Hat Inc will shift its focus to CentOS Stream.
>>
>> Is CentOS Stream going to be very similar to Fedora Linux, shipping
with
>> the latest Linux Kernel like 5.10.1?
>>
>> I am looking forward to hearing from you.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
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On 12/15/20 5:58 PM, R C wrote:
> When was the last time a large company (think IBM, Sun, Novell Netware,
> Oracle) had a great idea to create or take over an OS, or a community
> only ending up in a situation that only almost killed them. (Yeah MS,
> but they figured out that giving it away for next to nothing for
> residential/educational use is actually securing their market share in
> commercial/government/Education etc etc etc.)
10-15 years ago BSA sued a person using pirated Windows (and Office?) at
home. Microsoft representative was a witness AGAINST BSA, so that there
is no precedent that private users of pirated software can be sued,
because out of fear majority of those using pirated software would stop
installing and using MS software and they would recommend software of
competition (free if possible).

If MS did not "fail to implement" effective protection from pirating
Windows and Office, their market share would be at least halved, and in
countries with low income they would barely exist.

-- 
Ljubomir Ljubojevic
(Love is in the Air)
PL Computers
Serbia, Europe

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