centos at niob.at
2020-Dec-09 09:26 UTC
[CentOS] [CentOS-devel] https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
On 09/12/2020 07:16, Kingsly John wrote:> > A non-paying CentOS user is not a real loss for RHEL. But people dumping > CentOS for a non-RHEL clone is definitely going to impact their future > revenues as they are losing mindshare/goodwill/easy migration etc.And worse: Without CentOS being used widely (junior) admins will have even less experience dealing with RHEL. This will result in lower quality deployments of RHEL, reducing overall security of those systems and it will reduce RHEL adoption, hitting RH/IBM where it hurts them most. I am seeing this in practice already with juniors - they all use Ubuntu on their personal systems and they hate having to deal with RHEL. And their opinions matter in the long run. peter
Roberto Ragusa
2020-Dec-09 09:36 UTC
[CentOS] [CentOS-devel] https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
On 12/9/20 10:26 AM, centos at niob.at wrote:> And worse: Without CentOS being used widely (junior) admins will have even less experience dealing with RHEL. This will result in lower quality deployments of RHEL, reducing overall security of those systems and it will reduce RHEL adoption, hitting RH/IBM where it hurts them most. > > I am seeing this in practice already with juniors - they all use Ubuntu on their personal systems and they hate having to deal with RHEL. And their opinions matter in the long run.Absolutely true. They are already ignoring what a real high quality distro is, and pushing into production things that are clearly unsuitable for the job. Regards. -- Roberto Ragusa mail at robertoragusa.it
J Martin Rushton
2020-Dec-09 09:40 UTC
[CentOS] [CentOS-devel] https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
On 09/12/2020 09:26, centos at niob.at wrote:> On 09/12/2020 07:16, Kingsly John wrote: >> >> A non-paying CentOS user is not a real loss for RHEL. But people dumping >> CentOS for a non-RHEL clone is definitely going to impact their future >> revenues as they are losing mindshare/goodwill/easy migration etc. > > And worse: Without CentOS being used widely (junior) admins will have > even less experience dealing with RHEL. This will result in lower > quality deployments of RHEL, reducing overall security of those systems > and it will reduce RHEL adoption, hitting RH/IBM where it hurts them most. > > I am seeing this in practice already with juniors - they all use Ubuntu > on their personal systems and they hate having to deal with RHEL. And > their opinions matter in the long run. > > > peter >And exactly the same applies to senior (or retired) admins on their home computers. My main home machine runs about a dozen testbed VMs, DHCP/DNS for the home network, Amanda, NFS and Samba for other machines, ownCloud, Apache, Zotero and DokuWiki for the family. I want a stable server under that lot, not a beta release. -- J Martin Rushton MBCS