Ido Schimmel
2022-Jul-13 12:39 UTC
[Bridge] [PATCH v4 net-next 3/6] drivers: net: dsa: add locked fdb entry flag to drivers
On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 09:09:58AM +0200, netdev at kapio-technology.com wrote:> On 2022-07-10 10:35, Ido Schimmel wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 08, 2022 at 02:34:25PM +0200, netdev at kapio-technology.com > > wrote: > > > On 2022-07-08 13:56, Vladimir Oltean wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 08, 2022 at 11:50:33AM +0200, netdev at kapio-technology.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > On 2022-07-08 11:15, Vladimir Oltean wrote: > > > > > > When the possibility for it to be true will exist, _all_ switchdev > > > > > > drivers will need to be updated to ignore that (mlxsw, cpss, ocelot, > > > > > > rocker, prestera, etc etc), not just DSA. And you don't need to > > > > > > propagate the is_locked flag to all individual DSA sub-drivers when none > > > > > > care about is_locked in the ADD_TO_DEVICE direction, you can just ignore > > > > > > within DSA until needed otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I have it wrong, but I think that Ido requested me to send it > > > > > to all > > > > > the drivers, and have them ignore entries with is_locked=true ... > > > > > > > > I don't think Ido requested you to ignore is_locked from all DSA > > > > drivers, but instead from all switchdev drivers maybe. Quite different. > > > > > > So without changing the signature on port_fdb_add(). If that is to > > > avoid > > > changing that signature, which needs to be changed anyhow for any > > > switchcore > > > driver to act on it, then my next patch set will change the > > > signarure also > > > as it is needed for creating dynamic ATU entries from userspace, > > > which is > > > needed to make the whole thing complete. > > > > > > As it is already done (with the is_locked to the drivers) and needed > > > for > > > future application, I would like Ido to comment on it before I take > > > action. > > > > It's related to my reply here [1]. AFAICT, we have two classes of device > > drivers: > > > > 1. Drivers like mv88e6xxx that report locked entries to the bridge > > driver via 'SWITCHDEV_FDB_ADD_TO_BRIDGE'. > > > > 2. Drivers like mlxsw that trap packets that incurred an FDB miss to the > > bridge driver. These packets will cause the bridge driver to emit > > 'SWITCHDEV_FDB_ADD_TO_DEVICE' notifications with the locked flag. > > > > If we can agree that locked entries are only meant to signal to user > > space that a certain MAC tried to gain authorization and that the bridge > > should ignore them while forwarding, then there is no point in > > generating the 'SWITCHDEV_FDB_ADD_TO_DEVICE' notifications. We should > > teach the bridge driver to suppress these so that there is no need to > > patch all the device drivers. > > I do not know of all about what other switchcores there are and how they > work, but those that I have knowledge of, it has been prudent in connection > with the locked port feature to install Storm Prevention or zero-DPV > (Destination Port Vector) FDB entries.What are "Storm Prevention" and "zero-DPV" FDB entries?> I would think that that should be the case for other switchcores too. > Those entries cannot normally be installed from userspace (of course special > tools can do anything). > > But if the decision is to drop locked entries at the DSA layer, I can do > that. I just want to ensure that all considerations have been taken.There is no decision that I'm aware of. I'm simply trying to understand how FDB entries that have 'BR_FDB_ENTRY_LOCKED' set are handled in mv88e6xxx and other devices in this class. We have at least three different implementations to consolidate: 1. The bridge driver, pure software forwarding. The locked entry is dynamically created by the bridge. Packets received via the locked port with a SA corresponding to the locked entry will be dropped, but will refresh the entry. On the other hand, packets with a DA corresponding to the locked entry will be forwarded as known unicast through the locked port. 2. Hardware implementations like Spectrum that can be programmed to trap packets that incurred an FDB miss. Like in the first case, the locked entry is dynamically created by the bridge driver and also aged by it. Unlike in the first case, since this entry is not present in hardware, packets with a DA corresponding to the locked entry will be flooded as unknown unicast. 3. Hardware implementations like mv88e6xxx that fire an interrupt upon FDB miss. Need your help to understand how the above works there and why. Specifically, how locked entries are represented in hardware (if at all) and what is the significance of not installing corresponding entries in hardware.> > > > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/YsqLyxTRtUjzDj6D at shredder/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > In any case I'm going to take a look at this patch set more closely and > > > > run the selftest on my Marvell switch, but I can't do this today > > > > unfortunately. I'll return with more comments. > > > > > > Yes :-)
netdev at kapio-technology.com
2022-Jul-17 12:21 UTC
[Bridge] [PATCH v4 net-next 3/6] drivers: net: dsa: add locked fdb entry flag to drivers
On 2022-07-13 14:39, Ido Schimmel wrote:> On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 09:09:58AM +0200, netdev at kapio-technology.com > wrote:> > What are "Storm Prevention" and "zero-DPV" FDB entries?They are both FDB entries that at the HW level drops all packets having a specific SA, thus using minimum resources. (thus the name "Storm Prevention" aka, protection against DOS attacks. We must remember that we operate with CPU based learning.)> > There is no decision that I'm aware of. I'm simply trying to understand > how FDB entries that have 'BR_FDB_ENTRY_LOCKED' set are handled in > mv88e6xxx and other devices in this class. We have at least three > different implementations to consolidate: > > 1. The bridge driver, pure software forwarding. The locked entry is > dynamically created by the bridge. Packets received via the locked port > with a SA corresponding to the locked entry will be dropped, but will > refresh the entry. On the other hand, packets with a DA corresponding > to > the locked entry will be forwarded as known unicast through the locked > port. > > 2. Hardware implementations like Spectrum that can be programmed to > trap > packets that incurred an FDB miss. Like in the first case, the locked > entry is dynamically created by the bridge driver and also aged by it. > Unlike in the first case, since this entry is not present in hardware, > packets with a DA corresponding to the locked entry will be flooded as > unknown unicast. > > 3. Hardware implementations like mv88e6xxx that fire an interrupt upon > FDB miss. Need your help to understand how the above works there and > why. Specifically, how locked entries are represented in hardware (if > at > all) and what is the significance of not installing corresponding > entries in hardware. >With the mv88e6xxx, a miss violation with the SA occurs when there is no entry. If you then add a normal entry with the SA, the port is open for that SA of course. The zero-DPV entry is an entry that ensures that there is no more miss violation interrupts from that SA, while dropping all entries with the SA.