freebsd stable - Apr 2019 - CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

> On Apr 28, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Paul Mather <paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
wrote:
> 
> On Apr 28, 2019, at 3:52 PM, <kris at ixsystems.com> <kris at
ixsystems.com> wrote:
> 
>> FreeBSD Community,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm pleased to announce a CFT for builds of FreeBSD 12-stable and
13-current
>> using "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base. These are stock
FreeBSD images which
>> will allow users to perform all updating via the 'pkg' command
directly.
>> Rather than trying to answer all questions in this announcement,
we've
>> created a FAQ page with more details. Please refer to this page, and
let us
>> know if you have additional questions that we can include on that page
going
>> forward.
> 
> 
> I currently keep my FreeBSD/arm and FreeBSD/arm64 systems up to date via
PkgBase in FreeBSD 12.  It works well for me (crossbuilding and hosting the
PkgBase repository on a FreeBSD/amd64 system).
> 
> What is the difference between the above CFT-created PkgBase and one
created via "make packages" using the native build system
(https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase)?  Looking at the FAQ you linked
(https://trueos.github.io/pkgbase-docs/), it seems the above CFT system is less
granular than the one currently produced via the in-tree "make
packages" (which could be a good thing from a simplicity standpoint).  Is
there anything else?
> 
> Is the above CFT-produced packages the system that will ultimately become
the way packaged base is produced in FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE, or is it just an
alternative you want people to try out and evaluate?  I guess I'm not clear
what "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base means. :-)
What are the plans to get rid of the hellscape known as ?mergemaster??  Is there
anything exciting and new there either in base or any of the ixSystems projects?

Thanks,

Charles
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Paul.
> 
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Its on the agenda for next months Working Group. That and tooling to help
migrating to pkg base and keeping /etc files intact.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Sprickman <spork at bway.net> 
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 9:30 PM
To: Paul Mather <paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
Cc: kris at ixsystems.com; FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable at freebsd.org>
Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base


> On Apr 28, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Paul Mather <paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
wrote:
> 
> On Apr 28, 2019, at 3:52 PM, <kris at ixsystems.com> <kris at
ixsystems.com> wrote:
> 
>> FreeBSD Community,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm pleased to announce a CFT for builds of FreeBSD 12-stable and 
>> 13-current using "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base. These are
stock
>> FreeBSD images which will allow users to perform all updating via the
'pkg' command directly.
>> Rather than trying to answer all questions in this announcement, 
>> we've created a FAQ page with more details. Please refer to this 
>> page, and let us know if you have additional questions that we can 
>> include on that page going forward.
> 
> 
> I currently keep my FreeBSD/arm and FreeBSD/arm64 systems up to date via
PkgBase in FreeBSD 12.  It works well for me (crossbuilding and hosting the
PkgBase repository on a FreeBSD/amd64 system).
> 
> What is the difference between the above CFT-created PkgBase and one
created via "make packages" using the native build system
(https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase)?  Looking at the FAQ you linked
(https://trueos.github.io/pkgbase-docs/), it seems the above CFT system is less
granular than the one currently produced via the in-tree "make
packages" (which could be a good thing from a simplicity standpoint).  Is
there anything else?
> 
> Is the above CFT-produced packages the system that will ultimately 
> become the way packaged base is produced in FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE, or 
> is it just an alternative you want people to try out and evaluate?  I 
> guess I'm not clear what "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base
means. :-)
What are the plans to get rid of the hellscape known as ?mergemaster??  Is there
anything exciting and new there either in base or any of the ixSystems projects?

Thanks,

Charles

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Paul.
> 
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On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 09:29:37PM -0400, Charles Sprickman via freebsd-stable
wrote:
> 
> 
> What are the plans to get rid of the hellscape known as ?mergemaster??
> Is there anything exciting and new there either in base or any of the
> ixSystems projects?
There's /usr/sbin/etcupdate in base.