freebsd stable - Jan 2019 - Not sure if this is the correct place.... (laptop, dual-boot EFI)

I'm just booting the installer, going to do this on my X1 Carbon (5th gen),
and I'm planning to use the efibootmgr entry first (which is sufficient for
booting), and later I might add rEFInd if I feel like it. I'll be posting
my steps online, I can post the link once it's out there if you're
interested.

I'm very curious about HW support on the 6th gen Carbon, it'd be great
to
hear how it goes.

Have fun!

Kamila

On Sat, 26 Jan 2019, 06:54 Kyle Evans, <kevans at freebsd.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 6:30 PM Jonathan Chen <jonc at chen.org.nz>
wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 13:00, Karl Denninger <karl at
denninger.net> wrote:
> > [...]
> > > I'd like to repartition it to be able to dual boot it much as
I do with
> > > my X220 (I wish I could ditch Windows entirely, but that is just
not
> > > going to happen), but I'm not sure how to accomplish that in
the EFI
> > > world -- or if it reasonably CAN be done in the EFI world. 
Fortunately
> > > the BIOS has an option to turn off secure boot (which I surmise
from
> > > reading the Wiki FreeBSD doesn't yet support) but I still
need a means
> > > to select from some reasonably-friendly way *what* to boot.
> >
> > The EFI partition is just a MS-DOS partition, and most EFI aware BIOS
> > will (by default) load /EFI/Boot/boot64.efi when starting up. On my
> > Dell Inspiron 17, I created /EFI/FreeBSD and copied FreeBSD's
> > /boot/loader.efi to /EFI/FreeBSD/boot64.efi. My laptop's BIOS
setup
> > allowed me to specify a boot-entry to for \EFI\FreeBSD\boot64.efi. On
> > a cold start, I have to be quick to hit the F12 key, which then allows
> > me to specify whether to boot Windows or FreeBSD. I'm not sure how
> > Lenovo's BIOS setup works, but I'm pretty sure that it should
have
> > something similar.
> >
>
> Adding a boot-entry can also be accomplished with efibootmgr. This is
> effectively what the installer in -CURRENT does, copying loader to
> \EFI\FreeBSD on the ESP and using efibootmgr to insert a
"FreeBSD"
> entry for that loader and activating it.
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Further question....? does boot1.efi (which I assume has to be placed on
the EFI partition and then something like rEFInd can select it) know how
to handle a geli-encrypted primary partition (e.g. for root/boot so I
don't need an unencrypted /boot partition), and if so how do I tell it
that's the case and to prompt for the password?

(If not I know how to set up for geli-encryption using a non-encrypted
/boot partition, but my understanding is that for 12 the loader was
taught how to handle geli internally and thus you can now install 12 --
at least for ZFS -- with encryption on root.? However, that wipes the
disk if you try to select it in the installer, so that's no good -- and
besides, on a laptop zfs is overkill.)

Thanks!

On 1/26/2019 08:08, Kamila Sou?kov? wrote:
> I'm just booting the installer, going to do this on my X1 Carbon (5th
gen),
> and I'm planning to use the efibootmgr entry first (which is sufficient
for
> booting), and later I might add rEFInd if I feel like it. I'll be
posting
> my steps online, I can post the link once it's out there if you're
> interested.
>
> I'm very curious about HW support on the 6th gen Carbon, it'd be
great to
> hear how it goes.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Kamila
>
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019, 06:54 Kyle Evans, <kevans at freebsd.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 6:30 PM Jonathan Chen <jonc at
chen.org.nz> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 13:00, Karl Denninger <karl at
denninger.net> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> I'd like to repartition it to be able to dual boot it much
as I do with
>>>> my X220 (I wish I could ditch Windows entirely, but that is
just not
>>>> going to happen), but I'm not sure how to accomplish that
in the EFI
>>>> world -- or if it reasonably CAN be done in the EFI world. 
Fortunately
>>>> the BIOS has an option to turn off secure boot (which I surmise
from
>>>> reading the Wiki FreeBSD doesn't yet support) but I still
need a means
>>>> to select from some reasonably-friendly way *what* to boot.
>>> The EFI partition is just a MS-DOS partition, and most EFI aware
BIOS
>>> will (by default) load /EFI/Boot/boot64.efi when starting up. On my
>>> Dell Inspiron 17, I created /EFI/FreeBSD and copied FreeBSD's
>>> /boot/loader.efi to /EFI/FreeBSD/boot64.efi. My laptop's BIOS
setup
>>> allowed me to specify a boot-entry to for \EFI\FreeBSD\boot64.efi.
On
>>> a cold start, I have to be quick to hit the F12 key, which then
allows
>>> me to specify whether to boot Windows or FreeBSD. I'm not sure
how
>>> Lenovo's BIOS setup works, but I'm pretty sure that it
should have
>>> something similar.
>>>
>> Adding a boot-entry can also be accomplished with efibootmgr. This is
>> effectively what the installer in -CURRENT does, copying loader to
>> \EFI\FreeBSD on the ESP and using efibootmgr to insert a
"FreeBSD"
>> entry for that loader and activating it.
>> _______________________________________________
>> freebsd-stable at freebsd.org mailing list
>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable
>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe at
freebsd.org"
>>
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