> > It was a deliberate decision made by the maintainer. He said the chroot > > code in the installation was too complicated and would be removed as a > > part of the installation clean-up to get all BIND related files out of > > /usr and /etc. I protested at the time as did someone else, but the > > maintainer did not respond. I thnk this was a really, really bad > > decision. > > > > I searched a bit for the thread on removing BIND leftovers, but have > > failed to find it. > > > > You're probably thinking about my November 17 posting: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2013-November/075895.html > > I'm glad to see others finally speaking up; I was beginning to think I was > the only one who thought this was not a good idea. I'm a bit surprised > that no one has responded yet.I agree with the protesters here. Removing chroot and symlinking logic in the ports is a significant disservice to FreeBSD users, and will make it harder to use BIND in a sensible way. A net disincentive to use FreeBSD :-( Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug at nethelp.no
>> > It was a deliberate decision made by the maintainer. He said the chroot >> > code in the installation was too complicated and would be removed as a >> > part of the installation clean-up to get all BIND related files out of >> > /usr and /etc. I protested at the time as did someone else, but the >> > maintainer did not respond. I thnk this was a really, really bad >> > decision. >> > >> > I searched a bit for the thread on removing BIND leftovers, but have >> > failed to find it. >> > >> >> You're probably thinking about my November 17 posting: >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2013-November/075895.html >> >> I'm glad to see others finally speaking up; I was beginning to think I was >> the only one who thought this was not a good idea. I'm a bit surprised >> that no one has responded yet. > > I agree with the protesters here. Removing chroot and symlinking logic > in the ports is a significant disservice to FreeBSD users, and will > make it harder to use BIND in a sensible way. A net disincentive to > use FreeBSD :-(I strongly disagree. The BIND is still available within FreeBSD for anyone who chooses to use/install it. Further, nothing stops anyone who wishes to continue using the CHROOT(8) script(s) that provided the BIND with a chroot. Any copy of a FreeBSD-8 (maybe even 9) install CD/DVD holds all the "magic" required. It is _easily_ acquired, and implemented. In fact, one could easily turn the whole affair into an automated routine. So. Bottom line; the BIND still remains with FreeBSD, nothing has been taken away. The CHROOT(8) scripts are still easily available, and can be implemented, at will, by anyone who cares to continue using it. What's the big deal?> > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug at nethelp.no > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable at freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe at freebsd.org" >
> > > It was a deliberate decision made by the maintainer. He said the chroot > > > code in the installation was too complicated and would be removed as a > > > part of the installation clean-up to get all BIND related files out of > > > /usr and /etc. I protested at the time as did someone else, but the > > > maintainer did not respond. I thnk this was a really, really bad > > > decision. > > > > > > I searched a bit for the thread on removing BIND leftovers, but have > > > failed to find it. > > > > > > > You're probably thinking about my November 17 posting: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2013-November/075895.html > > > > I'm glad to see others finally speaking up; I was beginning to think I was > > the only one who thought this was not a good idea. I'm a bit surprised > > that no one has responded yet. > > I agree with the protesters here. Removing chroot and symlinking logic > in the ports is a significant disservice to FreeBSD users, and will > make it harder to use BIND in a sensible way. A net disincentive to > use FreeBSD :-(I have now installed my first 10.1 based name server. I had to spend some hours to recreate the changeroot environment that I had so easily available in FreeBSD up to 9.x. <rant> Removing the changeroot environment and symlinking logic is a net disservice to the FreeBSD community, and disincentive to use FreeBSD. </rant> Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug at nethelp.no