llvm dev - Jun 2021 - [cfe-dev] Mailing List Status Update

Are we really going to replace email with Discourse when we can see that
almost nobody likes using Discourse?

Metcalfe's law - people are going to tend to use the medium that they are
able to reach the audience on, but not necessarily because it's superior. 
Mailing lists have the benefit of long-term incumbency.

 

Email has a certain level of “omnipresence” and convenience. Including the
superb interoperability among (pretty much) all of the clients and platforms.

 

I think I would prefer maintaining the status quo but if I woke up tomorrow and
the conversation had moved to Discourse I would join it there.  Regardless of
whether it had moved by mandate or popular adoption.  I suspect others may feel
similar and therefore the traffic is not a good metric of preference.

 

True. But it may indicate a certain level of acceptance and convenience. Would
one need a “dedicated Discourse app” to access and participate in the
discussions? Would that app run smoothly on all the platforms the current list
members use (that includes how much space it would require, perhaps people
already maxed the storage capacity of their mobile devices?)? How would people
include bug reports there – taking screenshots…?

 

People kept using email because it seems to work the best.

 

I understand that LLVM dev’s aren’t crazy about maintaining mailing lists – but
probably a hosted mailing list solution would be better than moving to a totally
different platform.

 

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On 6/21/21 16:59, Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL via llvm-dev
wrote:
>
>     Are we really going to replace email with Discourse when we can
>     see that
>     almost nobody likes using Discourse?
>
> Metcalfe's law - people are going to tend to use the medium that they 
> are able to reach the audience on, but not necessarily because it's 
> superior.  Mailing lists have the benefit of long-term incumbency.
>
> Email has a certain level of “omnipresence” and convenience. Including 
> the superb interoperability among (pretty much) all of the clients and 
> platforms.
>
> I think I would prefer maintaining the status quo but if I woke up 
> tomorrow and the conversation had moved to Discourse I would join it 
> there.  Regardless of whether it had moved by mandate or popular 
> adoption.  I suspect others may feel similar and therefore the traffic 
> is not a good metric of preference.
>
> True. But it may indicate a certain level of acceptance and 
> convenience. Would one need a “dedicated Discourse app” to access and 
> participate in the discussions?
>
One can use Discourse via email, see 
https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/how-do-i-use-discourse-via-email/15279 - 
this is one of the major factors that was considered when comparing the 
different potential options.

  -Hal

> Would that app run smoothly on all the platforms the current list 
> members use (that includes how much space it would require, perhaps 
> people already maxed the storage capacity of their mobile devices?)? 
> How would people include bug reports there – taking screenshots…?
>
> People kept using email because it seems to work the best.
>
> I understand that LLVM dev’s aren’t crazy about maintaining mailing 
> lists – but probably a hosted mailing list solution would be better 
> than moving to a totally different platform.
>
>
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