Hello, I would like to restrict LICM in the number of memory operations it hoists out of a loop. Blindly hoisting out all instructions out could result in a lot of spilling/reloading, which is what I'd like to avoid. We see this for example on (inner)loops with small constant bounds that are unrolled. I am drafting something in https://reviews.llvm.org/D92488, which contains a reduced version of my motivating example. It was brought to my attention that LICM might not have any restrictions by design because hoisting out all instructions could be some sort of canonical form that other passes depend on, so sinking back defs closer to their user(s) might be a back-end problem. I was wondering if there are any opinions on this. Cheers, Sjoerd. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20201207/d555d658/attachment.html>
Hi, I think the issue is not specific to LICM and can be observed with other transforms like the SCEV expander. This was brought up in one of the Loop Optimization WG calls before http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2019-September/135058.html as well. The general feedback at the time was that it would be better to deal with the issue in the back-end perhaps through rematerialization of the hoisted instructions in RA using LiveRangeEdit. I don't have much in-depth knowledge in this area, but the blocker issue at that time appeared to be that the register allocator could only rematerialize single instructions and we needed groups of instructions to be moved/copied. Does anyone know if any progress is under way in that area? Bardia Mahjour Compiler Optimizations IBM Toronto Software Lab From: Sjoerd Meijer via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> To: "llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org" <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> Date: 2020/12/07 08:25 AM Subject: [EXTERNAL] [llvm-dev] loop invariant code hoisting Sent by: "llvm-dev" <llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org> Hello, I would like to restrict LICM in the number of memory operations... This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. Hello, I would like to restrict LICM in the number of memory operations it hoists out of a loop. Blindly hoisting out all instructions out could result in a lot of spilling/reloading, which is what I'd like to avoid. We see this for example on (inner)loops with small constant bounds that are unrolled. I am drafting something in https://reviews.llvm.org/D92488, which contains a reduced version of my motivating example. It was brought to my attention that LICM might not have any restrictions by design because hoisting out all instructions could be some sort of canonical form that other passes depend on, so sinking back defs closer to their user(s) might be a back-end problem. I was wondering if there are any opinions on this. Cheers, Sjoerd._______________________________________________ LLVM Developers mailing list llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20201207/1493ae47/attachment-0001.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: graycol.gif Type: image/gif Size: 105 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20201207/1493ae47/attachment-0001.gif>
Hi,> On Dec 7, 2020, at 13:25, Sjoerd Meijer via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: > > Hello, > > I would like to restrict LICM in the number of memory operations it hoists out of a loop. Blindly hoisting out all instructions out could result in a lot of spilling/reloading, which is what I'd like to avoid. We see this for example on (inner)loops with small constant bounds that are unrolled. I am drafting something in https://reviews.llvm.org/D92488 <https://reviews.llvm.org/D92488>, which contains a reduced version of my motivating example. > It was brought to my attention that LICM might not have any restrictions by design because hoisting out all instructions could be some sort of canonical form that other passes depend on, so sinking back defs closer to their user(s) might be a back-end problem. I was wondering if there are any opinions on this. >I think one key benefit of hoisting as much as possible is that it enables/simplifies subsequent optimizations in the middle-end (especially for memory operations). Limiting hoisting is likely to have a bad knock-on effect on other transformations. Accurately estimating the number of spills in LICM is probably going to be tricky and/or brittle. Another thing to consider is that there are plenty of other transformations that extend live-ranges of values, so they would also need to also need updating. Sinking in the backend would catch those cases naturally, while making our lives easier in the middle-end. We already have plenty of infrastructure to reason about register pressure & co in CodeGen. As Bardia mentioned, currently there is limited support for re-materialzing instructions. Besides that, I don’t think there are dedicated passes to move defs to uses to reduce register pressure, beside the MachineScheduler. But the MachineScheduler currently only operates on sub-regions of basic blocks. I think there would be potential for having a dedicated pass to move defs across basic blocks to reduce register pressure. I think we have most building blocks (RegisterPressureTracker, MachineTraceMetrics for selecting a likely trace through the function). But reasoning about moving memory operations is probably going to be more difficult in the backend than in the middle-end though unfortunately. Cheers, Florian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20201207/7e674f72/attachment.html>