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Elliot Joel Bernstein

2015-Apr-09 13:42 UTC

[R] Windows Installation Without Third-Party Packages

I am trying to install R for Windows, but when I use the installer provided
on CRAN, a number of third-party packages are installed by default (i.e.
lattice, Matrix, codetools, etc.). If R is installed with administrator
privileges, so it's available for all users, non-administrators can't
update those packages. Is there any way to just install R without any
third-party packages, and let individual users install the packages they
want?

Thanks.

- Elliot

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John McKown

2015-Apr-09 18:13 UTC

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On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Elliot Joel Bernstein <ejb6 at
cornell.edu>
wrote:
> I am trying to install R for Windows, but when I use the installer provided
> on CRAN, a number of third-party packages are installed by default (i.e.
> lattice, Matrix, codetools, etc.). If R is installed with administrator
> privileges, so it's available for all users, non-administrators
can't
> update those packages. Is there any way to just install R without any
> third-party packages, and let individual users install the packages they
> want?
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Elliot
>
>         [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
>
?Please try to not post in HTML, per forum standards.

I don't know if this will help, but I hope so. I think what I did will be
self explanatory
> install.packages('plyr',lib=.libPaths()[1])trying URL
'http://cran.rstudio.com/bin/windows/contrib/3.1/plyr_1.8.1.zip'
Content type 'application/zip' length 1154715 bytes (1.1 Mb)
opened URL
downloaded 1.1 Mb

package ?plyr? successfully unpacked and MD5 sums checked

The downloaded binary packages are in
C:\Users\john.mckown\AppData\Local\Temp\RtmpWIjtdm\downloaded_packages> .libPaths()[1] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1"
[2] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library"> .libPaths()[1] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1"
[2] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library"> list.dirs(.libPaths()[1])  [1] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1"

...
[116] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr"

[117] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/data"

[118] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/help"

[119] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/html"

[120] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/libs"

[121]
"C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/libs/i386"

[122] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/libs/x64"

[123] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/Meta"

[124] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/R"

[125] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/tests"

[126] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/R6"

...

As you can see, "plyr" got installed in my personal area. And it is
still
on the system directory:
> list.dirs(.libPaths()[2])[seq(from=1050,to=1061)] [1] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/parallel/tests"
 [2] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr"
 [3] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/data"
 [4] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/help"
 [5] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/html"
 [6] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/libs"
 [7] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/libs/i386"
 [8] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/libs/x64"
 [9] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/Meta"
[10] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/R"
[11] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/tests"
[12] "C:/Program
Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/proto">
Pardon the weird subscript, but the list was way to big to cut, paste, and
edit. So your users should be able to force any package, even a
"system"
package, into their personal R directory using the "lib=" parameter of
the
install.packages() function. This will allow them to update their copy of
any R package from CRAN.

I hope.?


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Maranatha! <><
John McKown

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Jeff Newmiller

2015-Apr-09 19:03 UTC

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John's answer is correct but you might like one of the following summaries
better.

The short (baby bear) answer is no. A longer (papa bear) answer is that anything
is possible if you dig deep enough. But the just-right (mama bear) answer is
that you don't need to worry about it since users should normally be
updating their personal libraries which will take precedence over the
system-wide library.
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On April 9, 2015 11:13:45 AM PDT, John McKown <john.archie.mckown at
gmail.com> wrote:>On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Elliot Joel Bernstein
><ejb6 at cornell.edu>
>wrote:
>
>> I am trying to install R for Windows, but when I use the installer
>provided
>> on CRAN, a number of third-party packages are installed by default
>(i.e.
>> lattice, Matrix, codetools, etc.). If R is installed with
>administrator
>> privileges, so it's available for all users, non-administrators
can't
>> update those packages. Is there any way to just install R without any
>> third-party packages, and let individual users install the packages
>they
>> want?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> - Elliot
>>
>>         [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
>>
>
>?Please try to not post in HTML, per forum standards.
>
>I don't know if this will help, but I hope so. I think what I did will
>be
>self explanatory
>
>> install.packages('plyr',lib=.libPaths()[1])
>trying URL
>'http://cran.rstudio.com/bin/windows/contrib/3.1/plyr_1.8.1.zip'
>Content type 'application/zip' length 1154715 bytes (1.1 Mb)
>opened URL
>downloaded 1.1 Mb
>
>package ?plyr? successfully unpacked and MD5 sums checked
>
>The downloaded binary packages are in
>C:\Users\john.mckown\AppData\Local\Temp\RtmpWIjtdm\downloaded_packages
>> .libPaths()
>[1] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1"
>[2] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library"
>> .libPaths()
>[1] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1"
>[2] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library"
>> list.dirs(.libPaths()[1])
>  [1] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1"
>
>...
>[116] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr"
>
>[117] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/data"
>
>[118] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/help"
>
>[119] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/html"
>
>[120] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/libs"
>
>[121]
"C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/libs/i386"
>
>[122]
"C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/libs/x64"
>
>[123] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/Meta"
>
>[124] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/R"
>
>[125]
"C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/plyr/tests"
>
>[126] "C:/Users/john.mckown/Documents/R/win-library/3.1/R6"
>
>...
>
>As you can see, "plyr" got installed in my personal area. And it
is
>still
>on the system directory:
>
>> list.dirs(.libPaths()[2])[seq(from=1050,to=1061)]
> [1] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/parallel/tests"
> [2] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr"
> [3] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/data"
> [4] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/help"
> [5] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/html"
> [6] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/libs"
> [7] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/libs/i386"
> [8] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/libs/x64"
> [9] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/Meta"
>[10] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/R"
>[11] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/plyr/tests"
>[12] "C:/Program Files/R/R-3.1.1/library/proto"
>>
>
>Pardon the weird subscript, but the list was way to big to cut, paste,
>and
>edit. So your users should be able to force any package, even a
>"system"
>package, into their personal R directory using the "lib="
parameter of
>the
>install.packages() function. This will allow them to update their copy
>of
>any R package from CRAN.
>
>I hope.?
>
>
>-- 
>If you sent twitter messages while exploring, are you on a
>textpedition?
>
>He's about as useful as a wax frying pan.
>
>10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone
>
>Maranatha! <><
>John McKown
>
>	[[alternative HTML version deleted]]
>
>______________________________________________
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>https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
>PLEASE do read the posting guide
>http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
>and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.

John C Frain

2015-Apr-09 21:16 UTC

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My understanding is that the packages installed with the windows installer
were only updated by installing a new version of R or the  patched install
file for the current version. If this is the case you you do not need to be
concerned about updates to these packages. Perhaps some one wiser that I
can confirm if my assumption is right or wrong.

John

John C Frain
3 Aranleigh Park
Rathfarnham
Dublin 14
Ireland
www.tcd.ie/Economics/staff/frainj/home.html
mailto:frainj at tcd.ie
mailto:frainj at gmail.com

On 9 April 2015 at 14:42, Elliot Joel Bernstein <ejb6 at cornell.edu>
wrote:
> I am trying to install R for Windows, but when I use the installer provided
> on CRAN, a number of third-party packages are installed by default (i.e.
> lattice, Matrix, codetools, etc.). If R is installed with administrator
> privileges, so it's available for all users, non-administrators
can't
> update those packages. Is there any way to just install R without any
> third-party packages, and let individual users install the packages they
> want?
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Elliot
>
>         [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
>
> ______________________________________________
> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see
> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
> PLEASE do read the posting guide
> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
>
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Uwe Ligges

2015-Apr-09 21:26 UTC

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On 09.04.2015 23:16, John C Frain wrote:> My understanding is that the packages installed with the windows installer
> were only updated by installing a new version of R or the  patched install
> file for the current version. If this is the case you you do not need to be
> concerned about updates to these packages. Perhaps some one wiser that I
> can confirm if my assumption is right or wrong.

No, updates of such recommended packages may be available between R 
releases. But individual users can install new versions using 
install.packages() into their private libraries, e.g. those that are 
first on the search path (given by .libPaths()) so that they are loaded 
first.

Best,
Uwe Ligges




> John
>
> John C Frain
> 3 Aranleigh Park
> Rathfarnham
> Dublin 14
> Ireland
> www.tcd.ie/Economics/staff/frainj/home.html
> mailto:frainj at tcd.ie
> mailto:frainj at gmail.com
>
> On 9 April 2015 at 14:42, Elliot Joel Bernstein <ejb6 at cornell.edu>
wrote:
>
>> I am trying to install R for Windows, but when I use the installer
provided
>> on CRAN, a number of third-party packages are installed by default
(i.e.
>> lattice, Matrix, codetools, etc.). If R is installed with administrator
>> privileges, so it's available for all users, non-administrators
can't
>> update those packages. Is there any way to just install R without any
>> third-party packages, and let individual users install the packages
they
>> want?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> - Elliot
>>
>>          [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
>>
>> ______________________________________________
>> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see
>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
>> PLEASE do read the posting guide
>> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
>>
>
> 	[[alternative HTML version deleted]]
>
> ______________________________________________
> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see
> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
> PLEASE do read the posting guide
http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
>

Thierry Onkelinx

2015-Apr-10 07:12 UTC

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Dear Eliot,

Users cannot update those packages because they don't have the correct
privileges to the library directory inside the R installation. If the
administrator gives enough priviliges to the users so that they can modify
all within the library directory, then the users should be able to update
those packages.

Best regards,

ir. Thierry Onkelinx
Instituut voor natuur- en bosonderzoek / Research Institute for Nature and
Forest
team Biometrie & Kwaliteitszorg / team Biometrics & Quality Assurance
Kliniekstraat 25
1070 Anderlecht
Belgium

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than asking him to perform a post-mortem examination: he may be able to say
what the experiment died of. ~ Sir Ronald Aylmer Fisher
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ensure that a reasonable answer can be extracted from a given body of data.
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2015-04-09 15:42 GMT+02:00 Elliot Joel Bernstein <ejb6 at cornell.edu>:
> I am trying to install R for Windows, but when I use the installer provided
> on CRAN, a number of third-party packages are installed by default (i.e.
> lattice, Matrix, codetools, etc.). If R is installed with administrator
> privileges, so it's available for all users, non-administrators
can't
> update those packages. Is there any way to just install R without any
> third-party packages, and let individual users install the packages they
> want?
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Elliot
>
>         [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
>
> ______________________________________________
> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see
> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
> PLEASE do read the posting guide
> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
>
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