after spending a lot of time integrating X-Fixer's winamp2 plugin code, I am on the verge of removing id3 v1/v2 support from the plugins completely. it is really hard to get right in a way that works intuitively for the user, and i18n is also a nightmare. in id3v2 every field can have a different encoding. FLAC tag a.k.a. Vorbis comment support is very good now so unless someone comes up with a really compelling reason, I'm going to drop it in the next release. Josh __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 02:13:45PM -0700, Josh Coalson wrote:> FLAC tag a.k.a. Vorbis comment support is very good now so > unless someone comes up with a really compelling reason, I'm > going to drop [id3 support] in the next release.Yay. :) -r
Where is id3lib used? I must admit that I only noticed it recently when trying to compile 1.1.1beta ... I had hoped that it would be used in the flac command-line tool to support conversion of AIFF and WAVE ID3 tags to FLAC tags, or something along those lines as an interim measure since unknown chunks are generally lost when compressing AIFF or WAVE. Is there any way the ID3 library could be used this way? ... or is it more prudent to put time into preserving unknown chunks instead of translating just one type of chunk? Sorry for the off-the-wall questions - I only just noticed that ID3 was around the FLAC project. Brian Willoughby Sound Consulting Begin forwarded message: From: Josh Coalson <xflac@yahoo.com> after spending a lot of time integrating X-Fixer's winamp2 plugin code, I am on the verge of removing id3 v1/v2 support from the plugins completely. it is really hard to get right in a way that works intuitively for the user, and i18n is also a nightmare. in id3v2 every field can have a different encoding. FLAC tag a.k.a. Vorbis comment support is very good now so unless someone comes up with a really compelling reason, I'm going to drop it in the next release. Josh
ah. I was only talking about removing support in the winamp2 and xmms plugins. the decoder libraries will still be able to skip over/ignore id3 tags as before. I think AudioReQuest and PhatNoise must be using their own code to read id3 tags, which won't be affected. Josh --- Steve Vasquez <steve.vasquez@request.com> wrote:> Hey Josh, > > We currently use id3 v1/2 in the AudioReQuest but are working to > support > Vorbis Comments in a future version. I do know that PhatNoise and > Tag and > Rename both use id3 as well. Just an FYI, you have to do what you > have to > do. > > > Steven Vasquez > Director of Product Marketing/Founder > > ReQuest Multimedia > steve@request.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: flac-dev-bounces@xiph.org [mailto:flac-dev-bounces@xiph.org] On > Behalf > Of Josh Coalson > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 5:14 PM > To: flac-dev@xiph.org > Subject: [Flac-dev] dropping id3 support > > after spending a lot of time integrating X-Fixer's winamp2 plugin > code, I am > on the verge of removing id3 v1/v2 support from the plugins > completely. it > is really hard to get right in a way that works intuitively for the > user, > and i18n is also a nightmare. in id3v2 every field can have a > different > encoding. > > FLAC tag a.k.a. Vorbis comment support is very good now so unless > someone > comes up with a really compelling reason, I'm going to drop it in the > next > release. > > Josh > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > _______________________________________________ > Flac-dev mailing list > Flac-dev@xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/flac-dev > >__________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
--- Brian Willoughby <brianw@sounds.wa.com> wrote:> Where is id3lib used? I must admit that I only noticed it recently > when > trying to compile 1.1.1beta ... I had hoped that it would be used in > the flac > command-line tool to support conversion of AIFF and WAVE ID3 tags to > FLAC tags, > or something along those lines as an interim measure since unknown > chunks are > generally lost when compressing AIFF or WAVE. > > Is there any way the ID3 library could be used this way?I think this belongs in separate tagging software. there are a lot of good tagging tools out already. Josh _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
I think so, too. I looked over a new code briefly. It is simple and very nice. The early days we had to use ID3, though we have Vorbis-comment now. Most users will have already used Vorbis-comment. It is good timing to remove id3 support. -- Daisuke Shimamura
Hey Josh, We currently use id3 v1/2 in the AudioReQuest but are working to support Vorbis Comments in a future version. I do know that PhatNoise and Tag and Rename both use id3 as well. Just an FYI, you have to do what you have to do. Steven Vasquez Director of Product Marketing/Founder ReQuest Multimedia steve@request.com -----Original Message----- From: flac-dev-bounces@xiph.org [mailto:flac-dev-bounces@xiph.org] On Behalf Of Josh Coalson Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 5:14 PM To: flac-dev@xiph.org Subject: [Flac-dev] dropping id3 support after spending a lot of time integrating X-Fixer's winamp2 plugin code, I am on the verge of removing id3 v1/v2 support from the plugins completely. it is really hard to get right in a way that works intuitively for the user, and i18n is also a nightmare. in id3v2 every field can have a different encoding. FLAC tag a.k.a. Vorbis comment support is very good now so unless someone comes up with a really compelling reason, I'm going to drop it in the next release. Josh __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ Flac-dev mailing list Flac-dev@xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/flac-dev