thr3ads.net - samba - [Samba] How to Join Mac OSX workstation as AD domain member [Jun 2018]

If this information is useful, please help other people find it:
Share via:

Mark Foley

2018-Jun-27 00:41 UTC

[Samba] How to Join Mac OSX workstation as AD domain member

On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 15:25:56 -0700 Kris Lou wrote:kvia samba <samba at
lists.samba.org>>
> There are basically 3 ways:
> * dsconfigad (https://gist.github.com/bzerangue/6886182)
OK, I ran 'dsconfigad -show' and got the following results. They
basically look OK to my limited
understanding except for the Mapping options. I did check those mapping boxes,
but I guess it
also wanted me to fill in actual values. I'll have to do a bit of research
as I've no idea what
these values should be, nor do I know what happens if I leave the mappings
un-checked as it
says it will then use "dynamically generated information for macOS"
(whatever that means).

If any of these other settings look obviously suspect, please advise.

Active Directory Forest          = hprs.local
Active Directory Domain          = hprs.local
Computer Account                 = labmac$

Advanced Options - User Experience
  Create mobile account at login = Enabled
     Require confirmation        = Disabled
  Force home to startup disk     = Enabled
     Mount home as sharepoint    = Enabled
  Use Windows UNC path for home  = Enabled
     Network protocol to be used = smb
  Default user Shell             = /bin/bash

Advanced Options - Mappings
  Mapping UID to attribute       = (null)
  Mapping user GID to attribute  = (null)
  Mapping group GID to attribute = (null)
  Generate Kerberos authority    = Enabled

Advanced Options - Administrative
  Preferred Domain controller    = mail
  Allowed admin groups           = domain admins,enterprise admins
  Authentication from any domain = Enabled
  Packet signing                 = allow
  Packet encryption              = allow
  Password change interval       = 14
  Restrict Dynamic DNS updates   = not set
  Namespace mode                 = domain
> * via Configuration Profile
What is that?
> * via GUI, which you've found
>
> There's also a toggle "Allow Network Users to Log in" via
System Prefs ->
> Users -> Login Options
I do have that checked, and it allows "All network users."
> However ...
> * Network Homes is difficult (at best)
That's bad.
> * Changing passwords on the DC does not automatically refresh the local
> profile's Keychain
That's bad too! That's kind of the point of AD authentication -- not
having to keep lots of
separate passwords all over.
> * Network Users require a constant connection to the DC -- which obviously
> doesn't work well for 1:1.
That's not a problem. If thd AD/DC is down there are other problem. Windows
users do get a
local copy of their desktop to work with, which is nice, but the AD/DC is also
the only DNS, so
users could not get to the Internet. With Linux domain members, there really
isn't an option to
have a local desktop copy (although, I could create a script to "fake"
it), but it's pretty
easy to NFS mount the user's home directory, which is then available to that
domain user when
he/she logs on per the AD configuration.
> So more sites are favoring Mobile Users (with local homes).
Not sure what that means (I'm a real Mac newbie). When you say "local
homes", does that mean
the home directory is stored on the workstation, only? No redirection? How does
a "Mobile User"
differ from any other kind of user?
> https://nomad.menu/ helps to solve a lot of the above without binding to AD
> -- but I haven't used it, so YMMV.  You might also be interested in the
> MacEnterprise mailing list.
>
> -Kris
I'll look at the nomad stuff, but this Mac needs to work in an existing
Active Directory
system. I'll also look at the MacEnterprise maillist.

Meanwhile, do you have any idea on what should go in the Mapping Options?
"Mapping UID to
attribute", what attribute? the UID of a specific domain user? That
doesn't make sense. What is
"dynamically generated mapping info"? I'll try doing some research
on this. I have a feeling
that these mapping options may be a big part of my problem.

THX --Mark>
>
>
>
>
> Kris Lou
> klou at themusiclink.net
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Mark Foley via samba <samba at
lists.samba.org
> > wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know how to join a Mac OSX (High Sierra 10.13.5)
workstation
> > to a Samba4 domain, or
> > know of a wiki/howto document describing this process? Web searches
have
> > turned up plenty of
> > info on running OSX as a Samba4 server, but I can't find anything
on
> > joining as a domain
> > member.
> >
> > I do believe I've actually joined (Bind in apple-speak) the
workstation
> > itself to the domain
> > using the System Preferences > Users & Groups > Network
Account Server.
> > That does show my
> > domain name with a green dot (OK status?).  And when I list network
> > computer on the AD server
> > it does list this Mac computer.
> >
> > Problem is, I cannot log in as a domain user. I'm sure I'm
doing something
> > wrong, but I can't
> > figure out what.
> >
> > Any help greatly appreciated.
> >
> > THX --Mark
> >
> > --
> > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
> > instructions:  https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
> >
> -- 
> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
> instructions:  https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
>

Mark Foley

2018-Jun-27 06:09 UTC

head link

[Samba] How to Join Mac OSX workstation as AD domain member

I think I have my Mac AD mappings wrong. The following link 
https://support.apple.com/kb/PH26272?viewlocale=en_ME&locale=en_ME, says:
> On a computer that's configured to use Directory Utility's Active
Directory connector, you can
> specify an Active Directory attribute to map to the group ID (GID), primary
group ID (GID), and
> unique user ID (UID) attribute in macOS.
> 
> Usually, the Active Directory schema must be extended to include an
attribute that's suitable
> for mapping to the GID, primary GID, and UID:
> 
> If the Active Directory administrator extends the Active Directory schema
by installing
> Microsoft's Services for UNIX, you can map the following:
> 
>         GID to the msSFU-30-Gid-Number attribute
>         Primary GID to the msSFU-30-Gid-Number attribute
>         UID to the msSFU-30-Uid-Number attribute
I've looked in sam.ldb and the only msgSFU object categories I find are
msSFU-30-NIS-Map-Config
and msSFU-30-Domain-Info. What are msSFU-30-Gid-Number and UID to the
msSFU-30-Uid-Number?
Should I be using these?

What are GID, primary GID and UID in this case? My 'Domain Users' GID is
10000. How does that
correlate? Why would I specifically map a UID? Would not the AD server sort that
out when I log
in as a domain user?
> If the Active Directory administrator manually extends the Active Directory
schema to
> include RFC 2307 attributes, you can map the following:
> 
>         GID to the gidNumber attribute
>         Primary GID to the gidNumber attribute
>         UID to the uidNumber attribute
I do have 'idmap_ldb:use rfc2307 = yes' defined in the AD server
smb.conf, but I'm still at a
loss as to understanding what they are talking about with GID, Primary GID and
UID.
> If the Active Directory administrator manually extends the Active Directory
schema to
> include the macOS gidNumber, PrimaryGroupID, and UniqueID attributes, you
can map the
> following:
> 
>         GID to the gidNumber attribute
>         Primary GID to the PrimaryGroupID attribute
>         UID to the UniqueID attribute
Not comprehending this mac-speak. Does anyone know what this is?
> If mapping of the GID, primary GID, and UID is disabled, the Active
Directory connector
> generates a GID, primary GID, and UID based on Active Directory's
standard GUID attribute.
So, if I *don't* do any mapping (disabled) what happens?
 > Important: With the advanced options of the Active Directory connector, you
can map the macOS
> unique user ID (UID), primary group ID (GID), and group GID attributes to
the correct
> attributes in the Active Directory schema. However, if you change these
settings later, users
> might lose access to previously created files.
Has anyone done any of this and perhaps understands what they're talking
about?

--Mark

-----Original Message-----
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 20:41:25 -0400
To: samba at lists.samba.org
User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10
Subject: Re: [Samba] How to Join Mac OSX workstation as AD domain member
From: Mark Foley via samba <samba at lists.samba.org>

On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 15:25:56 -0700 Kris Lou wrote:kvia samba <samba at
lists.samba.org>>
> There are basically 3 ways:
> * dsconfigad (https://gist.github.com/bzerangue/6886182)
OK, I ran 'dsconfigad -show' and got the following results. They
basically look OK to my limited
understanding except for the Mapping options. I did check those mapping boxes,
but I guess it
also wanted me to fill in actual values. I'll have to do a bit of research
as I've no idea what
these values should be, nor do I know what happens if I leave the mappings
un-checked as it
says it will then use "dynamically generated information for macOS"
(whatever that means).

If any of these other settings look obviously suspect, please advise.

Active Directory Forest          = hprs.local
Active Directory Domain          = hprs.local
Computer Account                 = labmac$

Advanced Options - User Experience
  Create mobile account at login = Enabled
     Require confirmation        = Disabled
  Force home to startup disk     = Enabled
     Mount home as sharepoint    = Enabled
  Use Windows UNC path for home  = Enabled
     Network protocol to be used = smb
  Default user Shell             = /bin/bash

Advanced Options - Mappings
  Mapping UID to attribute       = (null)
  Mapping user GID to attribute  = (null)
  Mapping group GID to attribute = (null)
  Generate Kerberos authority    = Enabled

Advanced Options - Administrative
  Preferred Domain controller    = mail
  Allowed admin groups           = domain admins,enterprise admins
  Authentication from any domain = Enabled
  Packet signing                 = allow
  Packet encryption              = allow
  Password change interval       = 14
  Restrict Dynamic DNS updates   = not set
  Namespace mode                 = domain
> * via Configuration Profile
What is that?
> * via GUI, which you've found
>
> There's also a toggle "Allow Network Users to Log in" via
System Prefs ->
> Users -> Login Options
I do have that checked, and it allows "All network users."
> However ...
> * Network Homes is difficult (at best)
That's bad.
> * Changing passwords on the DC does not automatically refresh the local
> profile's Keychain
That's bad too! That's kind of the point of AD authentication -- not
having to keep lots of
separate passwords all over.
> * Network Users require a constant connection to the DC -- which obviously
> doesn't work well for 1:1.
That's not a problem. If thd AD/DC is down there are other problem. Windows
users do get a
local copy of their desktop to work with, which is nice, but the AD/DC is also
the only DNS, so
users could not get to the Internet. With Linux domain members, there really
isn't an option to
have a local desktop copy (although, I could create a script to "fake"
it), but it's pretty
easy to NFS mount the user's home directory, which is then available to that
domain user when
he/she logs on per the AD configuration.
> So more sites are favoring Mobile Users (with local homes).
Not sure what that means (I'm a real Mac newbie). When you say "local
homes", does that mean
the home directory is stored on the workstation, only? No redirection? How does
a "Mobile User"
differ from any other kind of user?
> https://nomad.menu/ helps to solve a lot of the above without binding to AD
> -- but I haven't used it, so YMMV.  You might also be interested in the
> MacEnterprise mailing list.
>
> -Kris
I'll look at the nomad stuff, but this Mac needs to work in an existing
Active Directory
system. I'll also look at the MacEnterprise maillist.

Meanwhile, do you have any idea on what should go in the Mapping Options?
"Mapping UID to
attribute", what attribute? the UID of a specific domain user? That
doesn't make sense. What is
"dynamically generated mapping info"? I'll try doing some research
on this. I have a feeling
that these mapping options may be a big part of my problem.

THX --Mark>
>
>
>
>
> Kris Lou
> klou at themusiclink.net
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Mark Foley via samba <samba at
lists.samba.org
> > wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know how to join a Mac OSX (High Sierra 10.13.5)
workstation
> > to a Samba4 domain, or
> > know of a wiki/howto document describing this process? Web searches
have
> > turned up plenty of
> > info on running OSX as a Samba4 server, but I can't find anything
on
> > joining as a domain
> > member.
> >
> > I do believe I've actually joined (Bind in apple-speak) the
workstation
> > itself to the domain
> > using the System Preferences > Users & Groups > Network
Account Server.
> > That does show my
> > domain name with a green dot (OK status?).  And when I list network
> > computer on the AD server
> > it does list this Mac computer.
> >
> > Problem is, I cannot log in as a domain user. I'm sure I'm
doing something
> > wrong, but I can't
> > figure out what.
> >
> > Any help greatly appreciated.
> >
> > THX --Mark
> >
> > --
> > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
> > instructions:  https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
> >
> -- 
> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
> instructions:  https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
>
-- 
To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
instructions:  https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba

Rowland Penny

2018-Jun-27 06:48 UTC

head link

[Samba] How to Join Mac OSX workstation as AD domain member

On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 02:09:24 -0400
Mark Foley via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> I think I have my Mac AD mappings wrong. The following link 
> https://support.apple.com/kb/PH26272?viewlocale=en_ME&locale=en_ME,
> says:
> 
> > On a computer that's configured to use Directory Utility's
Active
> > Directory connector, you can specify an Active Directory attribute
> > to map to the group ID (GID), primary group ID (GID), and unique
> > user ID (UID) attribute in macOS.
> > 
> > Usually, the Active Directory schema must be extended to include an
> > attribute that's suitable for mapping to the GID, primary GID, and
> > UID:
> > 
> > If the Active Directory administrator extends the Active Directory
> > schema by installing Microsoft's Services for UNIX, you can map
the
> > following:
> > 
> >         GID to the msSFU-30-Gid-Number attribute
> >         Primary GID to the msSFU-30-Gid-Number attribute
> >         UID to the msSFU-30-Uid-Number attribute
I think there is a clue there 'Microsoft's Services for UNIX', it
used
to be called that, but latterly it was called 'IDMU' or 'Identity
Management for UNIX' and a lot of the 'msSFU-30' prefixes got
dropped.
> 
> I've looked in sam.ldb and the only msgSFU object categories I find
> are msSFU-30-NIS-Map-Config and msSFU-30-Domain-Info. What are
> msSFU-30-Gid-Number and UID to the msSFU-30-Uid-Number? Should I be
> using these?
You probably already are, 'msSFU-30-Gid-Number' became
'gidNumber'
> 
> What are GID, primary GID and UID in this case? My 'Domain Users'
GID
> is 10000. How does that correlate? Why would I specifically map a
> UID? Would not the AD server sort that out when I log in as a domain
> user?
> 
> > If the Active Directory administrator manually extends the Active
> > Directory schema to include RFC 2307 attributes, you can map the
> > following:
> > 
> >         GID to the gidNumber attribute
> >         Primary GID to the gidNumber attribute
> >         UID to the uidNumber attribute
> 
> I do have 'idmap_ldb:use rfc2307 = yes' defined in the AD server
> smb.conf, but I'm still at a loss as to understanding what they are
> talking about with GID, Primary GID and UID.
> 
> > If the Active Directory administrator manually extends the Active
> > Directory schema to include the macOS gidNumber, PrimaryGroupID,
> > and UniqueID attributes, you can map the following:
> > 
> >         GID to the gidNumber attribute
> >         Primary GID to the PrimaryGroupID attribute
> >         UID to the UniqueID attribute
> 
> Not comprehending this mac-speak. Does anyone know what this is?
> 
> > If mapping of the GID, primary GID, and UID is disabled, the Active
> > Directory connector generates a GID, primary GID, and UID based on
> > Active Directory's standard GUID attribute.
> 
> So, if I *don't* do any mapping (disabled) what happens?
Sounds like you end up using something very similar to the winbind
'rid' backend.
>  
> > Important: With the advanced options of the Active Directory
> > connector, you can map the macOS unique user ID (UID), primary
> > group ID (GID), and group GID attributes to the correct attributes
> > in the Active Directory schema. However, if you change these
> > settings later, users might lose access to previously created files.
> 
> Has anyone done any of this and perhaps understands what they're
> talking about?
> 
I have never done this (no apple clients) but if it works with one
version of apple OS but not a later version, surely this means
something changed in the apple OS and not in Samba. Perhaps you should
ask Apple just what they changed, if anything.
In the meantime, Samba has vfs_fruit, see 'man vfs_fruit' for more info.

Rowland

Apparently Analagous Threads

Search for more reasonably related threads

samba - Jun 2018 - How to Join Mac OSX workstation as AD domain member

[Samba] How to Join Mac OSX workstation as AD domain member

[Samba] How to Join Mac OSX workstation as AD domain member

[Samba] How to Join Mac OSX workstation as AD domain member

Apparently Analagous Threads