Leonard den Ottolander
2017-Feb-02 15:35 UTC
[CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat
On Thu, 2017-02-02 at 07:16 -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote:> On 02/02/2017 06:51 AM, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > > pkcheck might not be directly vulnerable. However, pkexec is. > > > If that's so, why are you supplying patches to pkcheck rather than > fixing pkexec?The patch has a fix for three memory leaks. One memory leak that allows heap spraying in pkexec.c that according to the aforementioned article is *directly* exploitable and has been fixed upstream. (Check references I provided.) Two similar memory leaks exist in pkcheck.c, for which I also provided patches. Even though these might not be so easily exploitable the memory leaks in themselves allow a local attacker to "spray the heap", which makes it easier for him to leverage an attack. You do not want to allow an attacker to have such potent tools readily available. Memory leaks are always bad, but these are seriously bad because they are attacker controlled. Regards, Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research
Gordon Messmer
2017-Feb-02 18:39 UTC
[CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat
On 02/02/2017 07:35 AM, Leonard den Ottolander wrote:>> If that's so, why are you supplying patches to pkcheck rather than >> fixing pkexec? > The patch has a fix for three memory leaks. One memory leak that allows > heap spraying in pkexec.c that according to the aforementioned article > is*directly* exploitable and has been fixed upstream.It took me a while to find the patch that you mentioned, which is probably why your bugs are being disregarded. Entirely too much of your existing bug reports is spent discussing a non-issue. If you want this issue to be taken seriously, I have a couple of pointers: First, drop the bug reports that have been closed. Those tickets are now convoluted and clouded by misguided discussion of a bug in pkcheck.c, which isn't expoitable. Continued arguing in those bug reports will be counter-productive. Open a new bug report and focus on this patch, exclusively: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/polkit/commit/src/programs/pkexec.c?id=6c992bc8aefa195a41eaa41c07f46f17de18e25c The upstream developer has disallowed multiple --user specifications in order to close a memory leak. That memory leak can be used to cause the heap and the stack to run in to each other, and that flaw has previously been combined with bugs in glibc to produce an exploit. The glibc bug is now fixed, but there is still a risk that collision could be exploitable in combination with other, as yet undiscovered bugs. If Red Hat is concerned with changing the behavior of pkexec in scripts, then they can still fix the memory leak without otherwise changing the behavior of the program by adding: if (opt_user != NULL) { g_free(opt_user); } ..instead of the upstream solution of failing on multiple --user specifications. This will correct the leak and won't break any scripts that call --user multiple times. That's it. Keep your bug report simple. Focus on the program that presents a security vulnerability due to being SUID root. Offer a solution that doesn't break any existing user applications. Since the problem has been fixed upstream already, you don't need any bug reports with freedesktop.org, just with Red Hat for the polkit-112 package.
Leonard den Ottolander
2017-Feb-02 19:46 UTC
[CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat
On Thu, 2017-02-02 at 10:39 -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote:> It took me a while to find the patch that you mentioned, which is > probably why your bugs are being disregarded.It is beyond my control where patches are listed in the Red Hat bugzilla pages. I don't think the Red Hat employee involved should have a hard time finding it in my report.> Open a new bug report and focus on this patch, exclusively: > https://cgit.freedesktop.org/polkit/commit/src/programs/pkexec.c?id=6c992bc8aefa195a41eaa41c07f46f17de18e25c > > The upstream developer has disallowed multiple --user specifications in > order to close a memory leak.Yes. This seems to be a better solution than the one I came up with initially and which you mention below, because multiple invocations of --user are meaningless in this context.> That memory leak can be used to cause the > heap and the stack to run in to each other, and that flaw has previously > been combined with bugs in glibc to produce an exploit. The glibc bug > is now fixed, but there is still a risk that collision could be > exploitable in combination with other, as yet undiscovered bugs.Yes. I understand perfectly well how this works, which is why I am so concerned. And that is exactly why I also want to fix those memory leaks in pkcheck.c. There might not be a known exploit for pkcheck.c but the vector ("heap spraying" because of a memory leak) is the same. That "heap spraying" will make it easier for an attacker to leverage any attack including a privilege escalation so it is worrisome even if the binary itself is not setuid.> If Red > Hat is concerned with changing the behavior of pkexec in scripts, then > they can still fix the memory leak without otherwise changing the > behavior of the program by adding: > > if (opt_user != NULL) > { > g_free(opt_user); > }That is the initial fix I proposed, but I changed it to use the upstream fix of not allowing multiple invocations of --user. Multiple invocations of --user are pointless in this context, so I believe the upstream fix is just fine. And probably *more* acceptable for "midstream", i.e. Red Hat. But either will do. I applied a similar fix to pkcheck.c, because the memory leaks are identical to the one in pkexec.c, so even though not quite as exploitable that (very powerful) vector is in that binary too. The argument that the binary must be setuid to make this worrisome is bogus. The vector might enable a privilege escalation because (at least on a 32-bit system) a shell user is able to initialize the entire heap with data of his liking making it way easier to mount any attack.> ..instead of the upstream solution of failing on multiple --user > specifications. This will correct the leak and won't break any scripts > that call --user multiple times.Scripts shouldn't call --user multiple times. When using the fix with g_free() only the last specification will be used. I think proposing a fix different from the one applied upstream (as in freedesktop.org) might also be considered "convoluting the issue".> That's it. Keep your bug report simple. Focus on the program that > presents a security vulnerability due to being SUID root. Offer a > solution that doesn't break any existing user applications. Since the > problem has been fixed upstream already, you don't need any bug reports > with freedesktop.org, just with Red Hat for the polkit-112 package.The fixes I provided for upstream are for pkcheck.c only (because pkexec.c has been fixed there). Again, even though not directly (knowingly) exploitable allowing a shell user to heap spray *any* binary is bad. Just the fact that I have to argue that fact so extensively is troubling. Any memory leak should be fixed. A memory leak that allows a (local) user to entirely control the contents of the heap should be fixed immediately. I have no indications the fixes I supplied for pkcheck.c will not be applied upstream. Regards, Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research
Leonard den Ottolander
2017-Feb-02 19:54 UTC
[CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat
On Thu, 2017-02-02 at 10:39 -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote:> Open a new bug report and focus on this patch, exclusively: > https://cgit.freedesktop.org/polkit/commit/src/programs/pkexec.c?id=6c992bc8aefa195a41eaa41c07f46f17de18e25cBy the way, the comment for that commit starts with: This usage is clearly errorneous, so we should tell the users they are making a mistake. Besides, this allows an attacker to cause a high number of heap allocations with attacker-controlled sizes ( http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.cz/2014/08/the-poisoned-nul-byte-2014-edition.html ), making some exploits easier. Regards, Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research
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