CentOS - Oct 2016 - CentOS 7/GNOME 3 customise top panel

Hi,

Is there any way to customise the top panel in CentOS 7 with GNOME 3 
(which I recently tried for the first time)? Specifically, I want to add 
"application launchers", as it will make start-up faster than the 
standard alternatives. (Because you can move the mouse directly to the 
right place - you don't have to carry out another action, wait for icons 
or menu items to pop up, look for the right one etc first.)

People on the web talk about a "context" menu that opens if you use
some
kind of weird combination of right mouse-click and Alt, Windows key, 
Ctrl, left click, Alt Gr or whatever, but there seems to be no way to 
make that happen on CentOS.

I found an answer of sorts in 
https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=47957 -
> In straight Gnome Shell -- CentOS 7 defaults to a modified version 
> using extensions -- the panel *is* locked. Visit extensions.gnome.org 
> to see if something there is useful.
- but I don't think I quite understand it. I mean, the ability to add 
extensions is nice, but if the panel is locked, isn't an "unlock" 
function what I should be looking for? This doesn't quite sound like an 
"extension". Or is the actual menu everyone talks about itself an 
extension? If that's the case, surely isn't there some other way to make
the changes? If the standard panel allows stuff to be added, there must 
be a standard way to do it, right?

Also, if I do need extensions, I'd prefer to install it via the package 
manager system rather than through a special web interface...

Does anyone know more about this? Any help would be appreciated. - 
Except, that is, I don't really need anyone to suggest switching to MAME 
or some other alternative desktop. I might end up doing just that, but 
it really bugs me that I can't get functionality that's supposed to be 
there to work...

- Toralf

On 14/10/2016 13:39, Toralf Lund wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there any way to customise the top panel in CentOS 7 with GNOME 3
> (which I recently tried for the first time)? Specifically, I want to add
> "application launchers", as it will make start-up faster than the
> standard alternatives. (Because you can move the mouse directly to the
> right place - you don't have to carry out another action, wait for
icons
> or menu items to pop up, look for the right one etc first.)
>
> People on the web talk about a "context" menu that opens if you
use some
> kind of weird combination of right mouse-click and Alt, Windows key,
> Ctrl, left click, Alt Gr or whatever, but there seems to be no way to
> make that happen on CentOS.
>
> I found an answer of sorts in
> https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=47957 -
>> In straight Gnome Shell -- CentOS 7 defaults to a modified version
>> using extensions -- the panel *is* locked. Visit extensions.gnome.org
>> to see if something there is useful.
> - but I don't think I quite understand it. I mean, the ability to add
> extensions is nice, but if the panel is locked, isn't an
"unlock"
> function what I should be looking for? This doesn't quite sound like an
> "extension". Or is the actual menu everyone talks about itself an
> extension? If that's the case, surely isn't there some other way to
make
> the changes? If the standard panel allows stuff to be added, there must
> be a standard way to do it, right?
>
> Also, if I do need extensions, I'd prefer to install it via the package
> manager system rather than through a special web interface...
>
> Does anyone know more about this? Any help would be appreciated. -
> Except, that is, I don't really need anyone to suggest switching to
MAME
> or some other alternative desktop. I might end up doing just that, but
> it really bugs me that I can't get functionality that's supposed to
be
> there to work...
>
> - Toralf
>
Hi Toralf,

Have a look at https://extensions.gnome.org/ specificity 
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6/applications-menu/
also look at Gnome Tweak Tool which lets you make some other changes to 
how Gnome 3 works. That application Menu I believe will work on C7 (I'm 
using F24 as my desktop)

Tris


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On 14/10/16 16:23, Tris Hoar wrote:
> On 14/10/2016 13:39, Toralf Lund wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there any way to customise the top panel in CentOS 7 with GNOME 3
>> (which I recently tried for the first time)? Specifically, I want to
add
>> "application launchers", as it will make start-up faster than
the
>> standard alternatives. (Because you can move the mouse directly to the
>> right place - you don't have to carry out another action, wait for
icons
>> or menu items to pop up, look for the right one etc first.)
>>
>> People on the web talk about a "context" menu that opens if
you use some
>> kind of weird combination of right mouse-click and Alt, Windows key,
>> Ctrl, left click, Alt Gr or whatever, but there seems to be no way to
>> make that happen on CentOS.
>>
>> I found an answer of sorts in
>>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.centos.org_forums_viewtopic.php-3Ft-3D47957&d=CwICAg&c=KV_I7O14pmwRcmAVyJ1eg4Jwb8Y2JAxuL5YgMGHpjcQ&r=Q0oqxzgUp3xCCIiJDwS-RbNDndQ-KZDhj8wwveNoqU4&m=BxVT4fC5-ld_lFoIcV_OwlpkAWG-qCjrKVYMcYoQGzc&s=bnrSG3ad2veUCGecX3vTMEbjyXprqn1AGP1ok0TmLVc&e=
>> -
>>> In straight Gnome Shell -- CentOS 7 defaults to a modified version
>>> using extensions -- the panel *is* locked. Visit
extensions.gnome.org
>>> to see if something there is useful.
>> - but I don't think I quite understand it. I mean, the ability to
add
>> extensions is nice, but if the panel is locked, isn't an
"unlock"
>> function what I should be looking for? This doesn't quite sound
like an
>> "extension". Or is the actual menu everyone talks about
itself an
>> extension? If that's the case, surely isn't there some other
way to make
>> the changes? If the standard panel allows stuff to be added, there must
>> be a standard way to do it, right?
>>
>> Also, if I do need extensions, I'd prefer to install it via the
package
>> manager system rather than through a special web interface...
>>
>> Does anyone know more about this? Any help would be appreciated. -
>> Except, that is, I don't really need anyone to suggest switching to
MAME
>> or some other alternative desktop. I might end up doing just that, but
>> it really bugs me that I can't get functionality that's
supposed to be
>> there to work...
>>
>> - Toralf
>>
> Hi Toralf,
>
> Have a look at 
>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__extensions.gnome.org_&d=CwICAg&c=KV_I7O14pmwRcmAVyJ1eg4Jwb8Y2JAxuL5YgMGHpjcQ&r=Q0oqxzgUp3xCCIiJDwS-RbNDndQ-KZDhj8wwveNoqU4&m=BxVT4fC5-ld_lFoIcV_OwlpkAWG-qCjrKVYMcYoQGzc&s=KEcKgPQYo6TSlJrKF4krI90szNC5QTVlVnIsUDdWsWU&e=
> specificity 
>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__extensions.gnome.org_extension_6_applications-2Dmenu_&d=CwICAg&c=KV_I7O14pmwRcmAVyJ1eg4Jwb8Y2JAxuL5YgMGHpjcQ&r=Q0oqxzgUp3xCCIiJDwS-RbNDndQ-KZDhj8wwveNoqU4&m=BxVT4fC5-ld_lFoIcV_OwlpkAWG-qCjrKVYMcYoQGzc&s=hudrg7rSGBGWTdezYPyROGgrIzPhhPRxs5YYgH2dmDg&e=

Maybe I should have been a bit more specific; I don't want launchers in 
a menu accessed from the panel - I want the icons to appear directly in 
the panel itself.
> also look at Gnome Tweak Tool which lets you make some other changes 
> to how Gnome 3 works.
I tried this earlier, but didn't find any setting related to what I want.
> That application Menu I believe will work on C7 (I'm using F24 as my 
> desktop)
The menu is actually there already - the relevant extension seems to be 
pre-installed.

In the Fedora version, what happens if you press Alt and right-click on 
the panel? If the answer is "nothing", how about 
"Windows"+Alt+right-click or Ctrl+Alt+right-click?

- Toralf
>
> Tris
>
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Il giorno ven, 14/10/2016 alle 14.39 +0200, Toralf Lund ha
scritto:
> I want to add "application launchers", as it will make start-up
> faster than the standard alternatives.
Gnome 3 don't like comfortable "personal application launcher" and
you're happy. It want you use mouse and keyboard to run some standard
apps. If you want use this DE like all DE, you must install and active
some extension.

Specially do not like Right click in some places and "Add new
Launcher", this is gone for a long time and I believe dont't come
back.?

I use this extension to launch my custom application with personal
setting, like personal shell command and ssh connections:

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/699/connection-manager/

For now, with some hack work, but it seems is no longer supported in
the future, and I'm not a java script expert to maintainer it.

I use Gnome on Fedora from a long time unfortunately, but When this
extension (connman) will no longer work on a next new version of Gnome,
I stop using Gnome and shall, with a bit of difficulty, go to another
DE.
?

-- 
Dario Lesca
(inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 24 Workstation)

On 15/10/16 10:45, Dario Lesca wrote:
> Il giorno ven, 14/10/2016 alle 14.39 +0200, Toralf Lund ha scritto:
>> I want to add "application launchers", as it will make
start-up
>> faster than the standard alternatives.
> Gnome 3 don't like comfortable "personal application
launcher" and
> you're happy. It want you use mouse and keyboard to run some standard
> apps. If you want use this DE like all DE, you must install and active
> some extension.
I believe a prominent GNOME developer once talked about the "un-break my 
application" preference in the context of how not to implement 
configurability. And now GNOME has turned into a system where you need 
"un-break my desktop environment" extensions...
>
> Specially do not like Right click in some places and "Add new
> Launcher", this is gone for a long time and I believe dont't come
> back.
But how about adding other stuff, like "system-wide" extensions?

Like I said, it does seem like users of other distributions get some 
kind of configuration options via right-click...
>
> I use this extension to launch my custom application with personal
> setting, like personal shell command and ssh connections:
>
>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__extensions.gnome.org_extension_699_connection-2Dmanager_&d=CwIGaQ&c=KV_I7O14pmwRcmAVyJ1eg4Jwb8Y2JAxuL5YgMGHpjcQ&r=Q0oqxzgUp3xCCIiJDwS-RbNDndQ-KZDhj8wwveNoqU4&m=HXlbCk7PjopI0-kEeFEQ10fFk9DLOCe5mv7ERapu0xs&s=ZqgWA58AMPRmwHRBMcIzkQCX-wB_qMTnx6DNIHzkK1Y&e>
> For now, with some hack work, but it seems is no longer supported in
> the future, and I'm not a java script expert to maintainer it.
>
> I use Gnome on Fedora from a long time unfortunately, but When this
> extension (connman) will no longer work on a next new version of Gnome,
> I stop using Gnome and shall, with a bit of difficulty, go to another
> DE.
:-(

- T
>   
>