Richard W.M. Jones
2020-Aug-05 11:58 UTC
Re: [Libguestfs] More parallelism in VDDK driver (was: Re: CFME-5.11.7.3 Perf. Tests)
On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 02:39:44PM +0300, Nir Soffer wrote:> Can we use something like the file plugin? thread pool of workers, > each keeping open vddk handle, and serving requests in parallel from > the same nbd socket?Yes, but this isn't implemented in the plugins, it's implemented in the server. The server always uses a thread pool, but plugins can opt for more or less concurrency by adjusting the thread model: http://libguestfs.org/nbdkit-plugin.3.html#Threads The file plugin uses PARALLEL: $ nbdkit file --dump-plugin | grep thread max_thread_model=parallel thread_model=parallel The VDDK plugin currently uses SERIALIZE_ALL_REQUESTS: $ nbdkit vddk --dump-plugin | grep thread max_thread_model=serialize_all_requests thread_model=serialize_all_requests The proposal is to use SERIALIZE_REQUESTS, with an extra mutex added by the plugin around VixDiskLib_Open and _Close calls. PARALLEL is not possible.> This is kind of ugly but simple, and it works great for the file > plugin - we get better > performance than qemu-nbd. > > But since we get low throughput even when we have 10 concurrent > handles for 10 different disks, I'm sure this will help, and the > issue may be deeper in vmware. Maybe they intentionally throttle the > clients?The whole server side seems very heavyweight, judging by how long it takes to answer single requests. It might just be poor implementation rather than throttling though. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com Fedora Windows cross-compiler. Compile Windows programs, test, and build Windows installers. Over 100 libraries supported. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MinGW
Nir Soffer
2020-Aug-05 12:40 UTC
Re: [Libguestfs] More parallelism in VDDK driver (was: Re: CFME-5.11.7.3 Perf. Tests)
On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 2:58 PM Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@redhat.com> wrote:> > On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 02:39:44PM +0300, Nir Soffer wrote: > > Can we use something like the file plugin? thread pool of workers, > > each keeping open vddk handle, and serving requests in parallel from > > the same nbd socket? > > Yes, but this isn't implemented in the plugins, it's implemented in > the server. The server always uses a thread pool, but plugins can opt > for more or less concurrency by adjusting the thread model: > > http://libguestfs.org/nbdkit-plugin.3.html#Threads > > The file plugin uses PARALLEL: > > $ nbdkit file --dump-plugin | grep thread > max_thread_model=parallel > thread_model=parallel > > The VDDK plugin currently uses SERIALIZE_ALL_REQUESTS: > > $ nbdkit vddk --dump-plugin | grep thread > max_thread_model=serialize_all_requests > thread_model=serialize_all_requests > > The proposal is to use SERIALIZE_REQUESTS, with an extra mutex added > by the plugin around VixDiskLib_Open and _Close calls.I'm not sure what is the difference between SERIALIZE_REQUESTS and SERIALIZE_ALL_REQUESTS, but it sounds to me like we need PARALLEL. With parallel we will have multiple threads using the same vddk_handle, which can be thread safe since we control this struct. The struct can be: struct vddk_item { VixDiskLibConnectParams *params; /* connection parameters */ VixDiskLibConnection connection; /* connection */ VixDiskLibHandle handle; /* disk handle */ struct vddk_item *next; /* next handle in the list */ } struct vddk_handle { struct vddm_items *pool; pthread_mutex_t *mutex; } open() will initialize the pool of vddk_item. pread() will: - lock the mutex - take an item from the pool - unlock the mutex - perform a single request - lock the mutex - return the item to the pool - unlock the mutex Since we don't need lot of connections, and most of the time is spent waiting on I/O, the time to lock/unlock the pool should not be significant. The server thread pool should probably use the same size of the pool, so there is always a free item in the pool for every thread. Or maybe something simpler, every thread will create a vddk_item and keep it in thread local storage, no locking required (maybe only for open and close). Do you see any reason why this will not work?> PARALLEL is not possible. > > > This is kind of ugly but simple, and it works great for the file > > plugin - we get better > > performance than qemu-nbd. > > > > But since we get low throughput even when we have 10 concurrent > > handles for 10 different disks, I'm sure this will help, and the > > issue may be deeper in vmware. Maybe they intentionally throttle the > > clients? > > The whole server side seems very heavyweight, judging by how long it > takes to answer single requests. It might just be poor implementation > rather than throttling though. > > Rich. > > -- > Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones > Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com > Fedora Windows cross-compiler. Compile Windows programs, test, and > build Windows installers. Over 100 libraries supported. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MinGW >
Richard W.M. Jones
2020-Aug-05 13:28 UTC
Re: [Libguestfs] More parallelism in VDDK driver (was: Re: CFME-5.11.7.3 Perf. Tests)
On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 03:40:43PM +0300, Nir Soffer wrote:> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 2:58 PM Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@redhat.com> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 02:39:44PM +0300, Nir Soffer wrote: > > > Can we use something like the file plugin? thread pool of workers, > > > each keeping open vddk handle, and serving requests in parallel from > > > the same nbd socket? > > > > Yes, but this isn't implemented in the plugins, it's implemented in > > the server. The server always uses a thread pool, but plugins can opt > > for more or less concurrency by adjusting the thread model: > > > > http://libguestfs.org/nbdkit-plugin.3.html#Threads > > > > The file plugin uses PARALLEL: > > > > $ nbdkit file --dump-plugin | grep thread > > max_thread_model=parallel > > thread_model=parallel > > > > The VDDK plugin currently uses SERIALIZE_ALL_REQUESTS: > > > > $ nbdkit vddk --dump-plugin | grep thread > > max_thread_model=serialize_all_requests > > thread_model=serialize_all_requests > > > > The proposal is to use SERIALIZE_REQUESTS, with an extra mutex added > > by the plugin around VixDiskLib_Open and _Close calls. > > I'm not sure what is the difference between SERIALIZE_REQUESTS and > SERIALIZE_ALL_REQUESTS,SERIALIZE_ALL_REQUESTS serializes requests across all handles. SERIALIZE_REQUESTS serializes requests within each handle, but multiple parallel requests can happen to different handles.> but it sounds to me like we need PARALLEL. > > With parallel we will have multiple threads using the same > vddk_handle, which can > be thread safe since we control this struct. > > The struct can be: > > struct vddk_item { > VixDiskLibConnectParams *params; /* connection parameters */ > VixDiskLibConnection connection; /* connection */ > VixDiskLibHandle handle; /* disk handle */ > struct vddk_item *next; /* next handle in the list */ > } > > struct vddk_handle { > struct vddm_items *pool; > pthread_mutex_t *mutex; > } > > open() will initialize the pool of vddk_item. > > pread() will: > - lock the mutex > - take an item from the pool > - unlock the mutex > - perform a single request > - lock the mutex > - return the item to the pool > - unlock the mutex > > Since we don't need lot of connections, and most of the time is spent > waiting on I/O, the time to > lock/unlock the pool should not be significant. > > The server thread pool should probably use the same size of the pool, > so there is always > a free item in the pool for every thread. > > Or maybe something simpler, every thread will create a vddk_item and > keep it in thread local > storage, no locking required (maybe only for open and close). > > Do you see any reason why this will not work?It sounds plausible, but since VDDK itself seems to be serialized internally (or more probably in the server) I doubt you'll see much performance improvement. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com libguestfs lets you edit virtual machines. Supports shell scripting, bindings from many languages. http://libguestfs.org
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